IN any crime the first question is ...why..what is the motive...second is who profited by the crime..and third..what is the now offical stance on this crime ...was it to make a martyr out of a president who made a disgrace out of his marriage vows...was it to silence the growing right wing movement in the us..was it to foster anti-gun laws...another cottage industry

I LIKE THE COMMENTS THAT SAID JFK MIGHT HAVE HAD HIMSELF KILLED. I KNOW THIS SOUNDS ABSURD, BUT STRANGER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED, AND WHEN WE WONDER WHO KILLED JFK, WE SHOULD CONSIDER ALL THE POSSIBILITIES, NO MATTER WHO WEIRD THEY ARE TO US. AS POWERFUL AND FAMOUS AS THE KENNEDYS WERE AND ARE, CONSIDERING THE WAY THE WORLD WAS THEN, THE THINGS THAT HAPPENED BEHIND THE SCENES WILL NEVER BE KNOWN, LET ALONE UNDERSTOOD.

Unlike most of you guys I'm no citizen of the US of A. I'm from Austria (so please forgive my spelling mistakes). I've read Jim Garrisons (DO in New Orleans in the 60s)book about his engagement in the kennedy- killing over and over again.

the most important point for me seems to be the following:

the zapruder- film shows that the first shot and the last shot were fired within 5,6 seconds.

for the reloading of the gun that lee oswald is said to having used needs at least 1.5 to 2 seconds it is clear that the killer only had 1 second for the second and the third shot to aim at the target.

so how could he have hit a moving target on such a distance havin had just a second to aim? it is impossible. the zapruder- film also shows that the second and the third shot were fired at nearly the same time. so oswald didn't even have the time to reload his gun.

I don't even claim that oswald had nothing to do with it. he worked for the cia for god's sake. but he didn't do it alone.

in 1979 an investigation committee of the house of represantatives had the assassination investigated all over again and they came to the end, that it "most likely was a conspiracy". For those who still like to believe politicians, beliebve the house of represantatives..

To me as an Austrian the kennedy- conspiracy is such an important part of history, because this coup d'etat by the CIA and LBJ is not just the end of American democracy, it's the end of the innocence of our western society.

In response to FAQ: Was there a second shooter?

"First let us remember the time frame for all of the shots. According to the Warren Commission, there have been only 4.8 through 7 seconds between the first and the last shot [42]. This time includes all possible firing sequences: hit-hit-miss, hit-miss-hit, miss-hit-hit. But the only sequence which fits the Commission's own arguments is hit-miss-hit from frame Z210 / Z224 through Z313 [43] (means 4.8 through 5.6 seconds)."

Response:

The only ballistics expert to write a book on the Kennedy assassination is convinced the first shot missed the limousine and hit a curb. The bullet disintegrated and a fragment embedded into the back of the President’s head, causing him to exclaim, “My God! I’ve been hit!” The SS agents clearly heard him say this in a loud voice. The second shot hit the President in the upper back exiting his throat, a wound preventing any further ability to speak. The third shot was fatal, hitting the President in the back of the skull.

The problem is knowing when the first shot was fired to determine exactly how many seconds it took to fire all 3 shots. Nevertheless, several riflemen have fired a Mannlicher-Carcano in less than 5.6 seconds and hit the target 2/3 times. Actually, "Mannlicher-Carcano" is a misnomer. This military rifle is officially known as a 6.5 Carcano M91/38. The only connection to Mannlicher is the clip used in the rifle, otherwise this rifle was 100% designed and made in Italy. Contrary to popular belief the rifle is an accurate weapon and was good enough to serve in two World Wars.

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"For the alleged assassination rifle, the Italian Mannlicher-Carcano, there is a minimum time of 4.6 seconds to fire three shots [44], probably more. Since the minimum time between two shots is 2.3 seconds, there is no time for a fourth shot. That means, if there was a fourth shot then there must have been a second shooter! Let us keep this in mind."

Response:

One of the shooters in the 1967 CBS experiment fired 3 rounds in 4.1 seconds. During the HSCA investigation (1976-79) Robert Blakey and Gary Cornwell proved the actual rifle, WC-139, could be fired in under 2.3 seconds. They were allowed to take WC-139 to the FBI firing range where Blakey fired 2 shots in 1.5 seconds and Cornwell fired 2 shots in 1.2 seconds.

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"Now we will establish that there has been at least one additional shot at Dealey Plaza. One of the known three bullets had been found, the so called Magic Bullet. A second bullet was that which caused the head wound. A third bullet missed and caused the wound to bystander James Tague. These two bullets were never found. But mysteriously, there was a fourth bullet. According to the autopsy report of FBI agents Frank ONeill and James Sibert, this missile (not a fragment) was removed from the President's body. The existence of this entire bullet was confirmed by Admiral Calvin Galloway [45]."

Response:

Actually, O’Neill and Sibert testified under oath to just the opposite. No “missile” was found during the autopsy, only two large fragments. See Volume 7 of the HOUSE SELECT COMMITTEE ON ASSASSINATIONS: SECTION II.--PERFORMANCE OF AUTOPSY, PART I. INTRODUCTION (58 - 67) or (142-165).

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"Since the bullet which caused the head wound was passing through the body, it could not be found in the President's body. This leaves only one possibility, the found missile caused one of the wounds which were claimed to be caused by the Magic Bullet (This one was found much later on a stretcher.). That means that there must have been at least one additional shot that hit Kennedy. And this leads us to a second shooter."

Response:

As mentioned above, there was no missile found during the autopsy. The only intact bullet found was CE-399, the so-called “Magic Bullet”. There was nothing magic about the ballistics of this bullet, nor was it a “Pristine Bullet”. CE-399 was deformed significantly though still intact. The bullet that hit the skull fragmented into many tiny particles, unusual for a military 6.5 full metal jacket bullet. They have been known to fragment when the jacket splits, but into several large pieces.

This led a ballistics expert to wonder if the bullet that exploded the skull might have come from a smaller high-velocity bullet, such as an AR-15, one of which was handled in the following vehicle during the shooting at the motorcade. It is entirely possible the final shot to the head was accidently fired by a bodyguard trying his best to protect the President. If John F. Kennedy was killed by friendly fire we can certainly understand why the Kenndy family would want to keep this secret for as long as possible, and the US government would respect their wishes.

David,

Just wanted to comment briefly on your March 31 post. You make an excellent point about the umbrella not being really necessary because of rifle scopes, etc. However, if you further research this, you will see photos that the "umbrella man" was seen sitting right next to another man on the curb right after the assassination, the other man is known as "dark complected man". This other man is seen in several pictures before and after the shooting holding a 2 way radio with an antenna. And he is actually seen talking into it and looking backward to the knoll while sitting on the curb. He was also standing right next to the umbrella man as the limo drives up. As it approaches the man raises his hand straight up into the air rather high, does not look like a wave to me at all, looks like he is giving a signal. I find all this a little too coincidental. Also,after the shooting, the 2 men are just sitting there casually while everyone else is frantically running up the knoll trying to find the shooter after having seen smoke from the rifle. It looks as if they are not at all concerned that a major crime has been committed. Because of their location they would have to have known the President had been hit. They then get up and casually stroll away. Neither of them has ever been located. The HSCA paraded some man claiming to be "umbrella man" during their hearings. The man looks nothing like the man from 1963. Just like the 3 supposed real tramps that they paraded in during the HSCA hearings look nothing like the ones in the photos.

Like I always say, it's the coverup that gets them every time.

I was born in 1973 10 years after John F. Kennedy was killed. I still am wondering who killed JFK. I hope someday we will know the truth about his death. The American public has that right. I can't understand why we don't know. Alot of people have an idea.

A must read for anyone interested in this topic is The JFK Assassination Debates: Lone Gunman Versus Conspiracy by Michael Kurtz.

I have sought the truth behind the assassination of John Kennedy for many years and this is by far the best book on the subject that I have ever read.

Michael Kurtz does not take a stand to support either position. He methodically lists all of the actual evidence without bias or conjecture with a complete bibliography. One thing is clear. No matter if you believe that Oswald acted alone, or if you believe that there was a conspiracy, the Government mishandled and suppressed so much evidence and bungled the investigation so badly, that Oswald would never have been able to be convicted of the crime in a fair trial.

Just a few of the things that I found enlightening, RFK in fact did not have any authority to order the Secret Service or the FBI to suppress evidence.

The Secret Service had no authority or reason to break Texas State law and remove the President�s body from Dallas.

The two people that were credited with discovering CE-399 (the magic bullet) testified that not only had the bullet been discovered on a gurney that neither Governor Connelly nor President Kennedy been on, but also that CE-399 was not the bullet they found.

It really is a great book, facts only.

Vincent Bugliosi, best known as the prosecutor in the Charles Manson case, has written a book called "Reclaiming History," which reaffirms the truth: Lee Harvey Oswald killed JKF all by himself...

Once again, I am always confused as to why no one has any problem believing Sara Jane Moore, John Hinkley, Squeaky Fromme, Sam Byck acted alone in their presidential assassination attempts but there just has to be a conspiracy when it comes to Oswald. Hmmm...

actually the shot thru the throat would have been enough to kill him, as it nicked the vertabra, and the trach, with kennedys problems with infection. as far as the head wound, it's not remotely possable for a 6.5 round, even allowing for bone shrinking to make a wound that small thru the skull. the only weapon there that day was the AR-15 carried in the secret service car. considering wound signatures, that is the only weapon that matches Kennedys x-ray photos, and curiously enough, the only weapon that was not gelatin tested by the secret service or fBI. nor was there ever to my knowledge a weapons firing report done after the assination.

which might explain why the body was taken virtually at gun point out of dallas, and why the remains of the brain and all autopsy material on the brain disappeared. it makes me wonder if bobby didn't have something to do with that. but I have believed for years that the head shot while graphic,

was a simply mistake of a certain secret

service agent standing on the back seat,

far left hand side with a loaded weapon and loosing his balance, falling slight back while the weapon comes up and slightly to the right, while trying to save his president.

Concering the remarks about Bobby Kennedy, we need to recall that his brother had just been killed in broad daylight. Linda, I also recall reading that Bobby, in an angry phone call, indeed accused the CIA of killing Jack. However, to use his power as Att'y General, we can be certain that he was in fear of his life, and very likely quietly brooded about retaliation, and the best way to achieve that much power is to control the presidency. Another obvious factor in his "silence" was the fact that the Kennedy brothers weren't lilly white either, so exposure of one side assured their own skeletons from the closet being exposed.

Robert Groden was a photo/film consultant to the HSCA. His testimony regarding forgery in the photos was also suppressed. The HSCA final report stated that the autopsy technicians and morticians viewed the photos and X-rays and their testimonies stated that they agreed that the photos indeed showed what they saw that night. HOWEVER, the REPORT said that only --- their testimony actually DISAGREED that these photos were accurate. Their testimony was also suppressed.

The HSCA report did recommend that the respective Judiciary committees pursue further investigation, but none has happened. The ARRB was not intended to be an investigative body.

If someone does not believe that people with knowledge of the conspiracy were killed to silence them, I encourage them to examine the circumstances of the following deaths:

1. Lee Harvey Oswald

2. Jack Ruby

3. William Bruce Pitzer

4. David Ferrie

5. George DeMoehrenschildt

6. Dorothy Kilgallen

These deaths are flagrant killings when you examine the chronology of events adjacent to them.

My focus in this assassination does not focus on the Warren Commission comedy of red herrings. Identifying the shooters is important, because that may lead to the identity of those that clearly were in the circle of conspiracy:

Lyndon Johnson --- a nasty, vulgar, and corrupt man, who was consumed with gaining the political power to avoid his own prison sentence due to Bobby Baker and Billy Sol Estes.

Allen Dulles --- fired as the head of the CIA by JFK for the Bay of Pigs embarrassment.

General Charles Cabell --- fired for exactly the same reason as Dulles (did you know that his brother, Earl Cabell, was mayor of Dallas in Nov.'63?)

Richard Nixon --- Eisenhower, in his final speech to the american public, essentially warned us about the military/industrial complex. Nixon was his VP, and during that time, was deeply involved in the Castro assassination schemes as well as the Bay of Pigs. His embarrassment in losing to JFK had him fuming for years. Nixon was connected to Jack Ruby while Ruby was still in Chicago and had been issued a subpoena.

John Edgar Hoover --- he and Bobby Kennedy despised each other.

Gerald Ford --- puppet on a string with a low intellect, changed the wording that "moved" the back wound much higher that it actually was. He also illegally provided reports and documents of the Warren commission hearings BACK to the FBI and Hoover, so that they could sanitize the "evidence" before the commission examined it.

WHY SHOULD CONSPIRACY BELIEVERS CONTINUE OUR QUEST? The answer is essentially what Linda said --- the inner circle of power that existed then is STILL in existence today. The Gulf of Tonkin incident was based on FALSE INTELLIGENCE, but gave LBJ the "reason" to escalate in Viet Nam. This parallels nicely with the Niger/Uraniam/WMD bullshit that spewed from George AWOL Bush's mouth for his pet war in Iraq.

One other person bears close scrutiny: George H.W. Bush --- he clearly was a CIA operative in Dallas on 11-22-63; he was somehow "selected" to head the CIA by Gerald Ford; he just happened to be VP when Reagan was shot, and there are connections between his brother Neil and the Hinckley family; and although he was president when the ARRB was established, he refused to fund it. It was only through Bill Clinton that it came to fruition.

Kennedy was being blackmailed as a result of his disolute personal life. This was intolerable. He truly was becoming a national security threat. Those in power did what was necessary to spare the nation the embarassment of all the lurid details. The Kennedy family did not press for a more thorough investigation, rather it was better to let the president die a hero, not a scoundrel.

I like this site. It touched me, because I was listeing to the radio broadcast of the current time of death. It was great. I love this site. It gives out the best information!!

Have NEVER seen anyone mention the man in trenchcoat standing in front of Book Bldg. when confusion broke out and police on foot were about to cross street to search upper windows for evidence of an "ON-LINE trajectory location" was perfectly in line with Presidential vehicle moving away.

A citizen in crowd took the video and TV

station quickly bought it. I saw it first run (BEFORE it was deleted out), It occurred to me as unusual for a man in trenchoat on sunny day and pointing up to upper wiow of Book Bldg. made police on foot stop and go to Book Bldg, away from possible real shooting site

JFK was the best president we've had,there has not been one in there as good as hs was since then!!

we all know that there were more than two shooters and up to four in place the day JFK was killed. we all know that Warren Commission lied to cover up the truth. so there is no use in talking about that any more, what we need to talk about is why they lied. who was so important to "them" meaning everyone from the Vice President LBJ down to local police who let Oswald be killed. the only person that important was JFK himself. i propose that JFK had himself killed so he would be remembered by not only every person in the USA but every person around the world. and the Warren Commission was given the job of hiding every piece of evidence and coming up with a story that would be so unbelievable that it would that everyone would focus on that and not the murder of JFK. i'm sure you would like to know how i came up with this idea that JFK had himself killed. if you look at his family history you find that he was raised to win at all costs. with his bad health, and his obsession with women, bad press, there was a chance that JFK would loose the next election, and be a one term president, he would rather die than loose and be forgotten. so with the help of TV and subliminal messating, he made sure everyone was watching the day he died. this way he would always be remembered as a winner who was doing such a great job that the underworld and others had him killed. i was 4 when JFK was killed i was watching TV that day, i remember wher i was, what i was wearing, and my mother telling me that the president had just been killed.

Just remember this fact, Lyndon Johnson would never become president without the assination of JFK and he wanted it badly. It was very convenient for him to be on an airplane to DC with someone who could swear him into office. Who did it, not Oswald

I was five years old in November 1963,

but like anyone at the time, I can remember the assassination like it was yesterday. My mother and I were visiting

relatives. While I was outside playing,

the adults were inside talking and watching the president in Dallas. When I went in the house, my mother and aunts

were crying. I had to go to kindergarten

at 12 pm and my mother said it was time to leave. As she walked me to school, I

asked her why everyone was crying. She

explained that a bad man had shot and killed President Kennedy. At school,

the teacher, who had been crying, asked if we knew what had happened and I repeated what my mother had told me,

though I really didn't understand what

happened. That evening my father was

watching the reports on the news and

he was teary eyed. It was only time I ever saw him close to tears.When I got

a little older to understand what had

taken place in Dallas on November 22, 1963, I started reading everything I could find. The Kennedy assassination has fascinated me since. Its truely one of the all time American murder mysteries in American history. Everyone

has a theory to who was involved, from

Lyndon Johnson to Nixon to J. Edgar Hoover and the mob. As for me, I've

always thought that the man who was pulling the strings was Hoover. I don't

either Johnson or Nixon was ever involved. They might have had disagreements with the president and even though had problems with Robert Kennedy, I believe that both men respected the president.But Hoover's hatred for the Kennedy's is legendary.

He was such a cut throat bastard, that

I'm sure he would kill anyone who got in his way, which is just the Kennedy brothers did.

This is such a great site for anyone who wants to learn about the assassination or wants to share their

own theroys as to what happened. Keep

up the great work.

In reply to the naysayers.

It's not about a conspiracy theory at all. It's the fact that the 70% of the masses believe there was foul play and they were duped.

In addition, it was not a conspiracy rather a well orchestrated hit. The hit itself resembles the pattern of a mob style hit and the masses know it, because anyone who may have been able to shed light on it was killed after Oswald. If Oswald acted alone it would have stopped at Oswald.

I will reiterate that when attempts on President Ford and Reagan were made no one else was killed after the shooters capture. This would be the pattern of a lone assasin. After President Kennedy was shot so was Oswald and Bobby.

It's not about a conspiracy theory at all, the pattern is that of a classic mob style hit and 70% of the masses know it.

Look at the autopsy photos and see for yourself (as morbid as it is) that the front of President Kennedy's head is blown off. That would not be from a bullet that entered the back of his head. In addition, the policeman behind the car had blood on him and pieces of President Kennedy's head were found in the lawn behind the car. Again the bullet entered and shattered the front of his skull and projected it behind the car.

Again 70% of the masses know there was more than one shooter.

If you do not believe it go to the Plaza and look at the autopsy photos yourself and see if you are in the 70% masses or the minority who believe it was just an innocent Oswald?

this article was a great help to me in doing my history paper

re: Those people who say they are sure Oswald did it alone are ignoring the fact that no one saw him pull the trigger.

..construction worker Howard Brennan personally observed Oswald do the shooting. All the evidence (Oswald brings gun to work, gun found at work, he runs away, kills policeman, was expert shooter and on and on) all points to Oswald.

Once again, why bother with a multilayered, multifaceted conspiracy when JFK was up for re-election in 11 months anyway?

Why do people have no trouble believing John Hinkley, Sara Jane Moore, Squeaky Fromme, etc, acted alone in their attempts to kill a president but for some reason, this couldn't have been the case with Oswald?