Mr. White.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Is there a rail there?

Mr. White.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

How many people were on that overpass that day?

Mr. White.

On the same side I was on?

Mr. Ball.

Yes.

Mr. White.

None.

Mr. Ball.

None? Any people attempt to come up on the overpass around noon?

Mr. White.

Not on my side.

Mr. Ball.

They did not?

Mr. White.

No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Had. you seen your partner send any people away from the overpass?

Mr. White.

. Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

You had certain instructions, didn't you?

Mr. White.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What were they?

Mr. White.

Not to let any unauthorized personnel on top of the overpass.
Mr. BALL. Now, you did permit some people to stay on the overpass, didn't you?

Mr. White.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Who were they?

Mr. White.

Workers of the railroad company.

Mr. Ball.

Were they people you knew?

Mr. White.

No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Well, how did you know they were workers with the railroad company?
Mr. WHITE. Majority of them were there when we got there, working on the rails.

Mr. Ball.

And you let them stay there?

Mr. White.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did you see the President's car come into sight?

Mr. WHITE. No, sir; first time I saw it it has passed, passed under the triple underpass.

Mr. Ball.

You were too far away to see it, were you?
Mr. WHITE. There was a freight train traveling. There was a train passing between the location I was standing and the area from which the procession was traveling, and--a big long freight train, and I did not see it.

Mr. Ball.

You didn't see the procession?

Mr. White.

No, sir.
Mr. BALL. Before the train went by, did you see some railroad personnel over on the---would it be the---

Mr. White.

East side?

Mr. Ball.

East side of the overpass?

Mr. White.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

How many people?

Mr. White.

About 10, approximately. I didn't count them.

Mr. Ball.

Did you hear any shots?

Mr. White.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Didn't?

Mr. White.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

First time you saw the President's car it was going underneath?

Mr. White.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What did you do after that?

Mr. WHITE. As soon as the train passed I went over and on the northwest side of the Depository Building. On the northwest side of the book store up there with the rest of the officers and after about 30 minutes they told me to go out and work traffic at Main and Houston, and I stood out there and worked traffic.

Mr. Ball.

All right, now, you heard no sound of no rifle fire or anything?

Mr. White.

No, sir.