(Testimony of Seymour Weitzman)
Mr. Ball.
When did you come to Texas?
Mr. Weitzman.
Do you mean back to Texas?
Mr. Ball.
Back to Texas.
Mr. Weitzman.
Right after the service was over and when I came out of the service.
Mr. Ball.
Did you graduate from school before you went into the service?
Mr. Weitzman.
I finished up after I received my discharge. I went back to Indiana to engineering school in South Bend and finished my degree in 1945.
Mr. Ball.
What school?
Mr. Weitzman.
Allison Division of General Motors Engineering School.
Mr. Ball.
What did you do when you went to Dallas?
Mr. Weitzman.
Went in business for myself.
Mr. Ball.
What kind of business?
Mr. Weitzman.
Dresses, garments, ladies garments.
Mr. Ball.
What did you do after that?
Mr. Weitzman.
I went on the road as district supervisor and manager for Holly's Dress Shops in New York, 115 Fifth Avenue, and I supervised 26 stores for them for approximately 15 years.
Mr. Ball.
Then what did you do?
Mr. Weitzman.
I took over as general manager of the Lamont Corp. which is a discount operation and the headquarters, which was Galveston, Tex. We had stores in Dallas, Fort Worth, Louisiana, Phoenix and Tucson, Ariz. At the end of 1960, I closed up all the stores, retired from the discount operation and went to work for Robie Love in Dallas County, precinct 1.
Mr. Ball.
You've been there ever since as deputy constable?
Mr. Weitzman.
That's right.
Mr. Ball.
On November 22, 1963, around noon, where were you?
Mr. Weitzman.
I was standing on the corner of Main and Houston.
Mr. Ball.
Were you alone?
Mr. Weitzman.
No, sir; I was with another deputy, Bill Hutton.
Mr. Ball.
A deputy constable?
Mr. Weitzman.
Yes, sir; he and I were standing there.
Mr. Ball.
Did you see the President's car pass?
Mr. Weitzman.
Yes, sir; we did. We watched the President pass and we turned and started back to the courthouse when we heard the shots.
Mr. Ball.
You say you turned and were starting back to the courthouse---what courthouse and what is the location of that courthouse?
Mr. Weitzman.
Sitting on Main, Houston, Record and so forth. We were at the back side and we turned around and were going into the Main Street entrance. We made maybe three or four steps when we heard what we thought at that time was either a rifle shot or a firecracker, I mean at that second.
Mr. Ball.
How many shots did you hear?
Mr. Weitzman.
Three distinct shots.
Mr. Ball.
How were they spaced?
Mr. Weitzman.
First one, then the second two seemed to be simultaneously.
Mr. Ball.
You mean the first and then there was a pause?
Mr. Weitzman.
There was a little period in between the second and third shot.
Mr. Ball.
What was the longest, between the first and second or the second and third shot; which had the longest time lapse in there?
Mr. Weitzman.
Between the first and second shot.
Mr. Ball.
What did you do then?
Mr. Weitzman.
I immediately ran toward the President's car. Of course, it was speeding away and somebody said the shots or the firecrackers, whatever it was at that time, we still didn't know the President was shot, came from the wall. I immediately scaled that wall.
Mr. Ball.
What is the location of that wall?
Mr. Weitzman.
It would be between the railroad overpass and I can't remember the name of that little street that runs off Elm; it's cater-corner--the section there between the--what do you call it--the monument section?
Mr. Ball.
That's where Elm actually dead ends?
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