Mr. Liebeler.

Would you state your full name for the record, please?

Mr. Zapruder.

Abraham Zapruder.

Mr. Liebeler.

That's spelled [spelling] Z-a-p-r-u-d-e-r? Is that correct?

Mr. Zapruder.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

What is your address?

Mr. Zapruder.

Home address?

Mr. Liebeler.

Yes.

Mr. Zapruder.

3909 Marquette.

Mr. Liebeler.

Here in Dallas?

Mr. Zapruder.

In Dallas---yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

Are you in business here in Dallas, Mr. Zapruder?

Mr. Zapruder.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

What business are you in?

Mr. Zapruder.

Manufacturing ladies dresses.

Mr. Liebeler.

The manufacture of ladies dresses?

Mr. Zapruder.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

I understand that you took some motion pictures at the time assassination?

Mr. Zapruder.

That's correct.

Mr. Liebeler.

Could you tell us about the circumstances under which you did that, where you were at the time and what happened?

Mr. Zapruder.

Yes.

Mr. Liebeler.

And what you saw.

Mr. Zapruder.

Well, of course, what I saw you have on film, but that was the day, November 22, it was around 11:30. In fact, I didn't have my camera but my secretary asked me why I don't have it and I told her I wouldn't have a chance even to see the President and somehow she urged me and I went home and got my camera and came back and first I thought I might take pictures from the window because my building is right next to the building where the alleged assassin was, and it's just across--501 Elm Street, but I figured--I may go down and get better pictures, and I walked down. I believe it was Elm Street and on down to the lower part, closer to the underpass and I was trying to pick a space from where to take those pictures and I tried one place and it was on a narrow ledge and I couldn't balance myself very much. I tried another place and that had some obstruction of signs or whatever it was there and finally I found a place farther down near the underpass that was a square of concrete I don't know what you call it maybe about 4 feet high.

Mr. Liebeler.

I show you a picture that has been marked Hudson Exhibit No. 1 and ask you if you can in fact see yourself in that picture?

Mr. Zapruder.

Let me see--there it is here. That's me standing there--there's a girl--that's where I was standing.

Mr. Liebeler.

You are pointing out a concrete abutment that comes up immediately to the right of the sign that reads "Stemmons Freeway, Keep Right"?

Mr. Zapruder.

That's right. That's the girl behind me--that's my girl that works in my office. She was up there, too.

Mr. Liebeler.

So, you and this girl are shown standing on top of this concrete abutment there?

Mr. Zapruder.

That's right---she was fight behind me and that's from where I took the pictures.

Mr. Liebeler.

Then, you can actually see yourself in this picture, can't you?

Mr. Zapruder.

Well, I can't distinguish myself being--I know I was there.

Mr. Liebeler.

Do you recognize that this picture was taken at the time you were there?

Mr. Zapruder.

Yes; I was there and I would say this couldn't be anybody else, unless---if this is an authentic photograph and it isn't composed now or changed---I would say that's me. That's the first time I have seen that. Were these pictures ever published in a magazine---there were pictures like that I suppose--- actually?

Mr. Liebeler.

This picture here is in fact one of a series of pictures that is being sold down here in Dallas by a fellow named Willis, I believe his name is Phil Willis. He has a series of slides that are available and it's picture No. 5 of those slides in which you can see yourself back there.