Did you ever know your wife Phyllis' parents, Simone Fleischer--Simone Fleischer Washington and Jack Stecker?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I didn't know her real father. But I met her stepfather--Walter Washington Stecker.

Mr. Jenner.

She was the daughter of Simone Fleischer, and was adopted by Walter Washington?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you have any contact with the Dominican Embassy in 1958?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. In 1958, Dominican Embassy?

Mr. Jenner.

The month of April.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. I think I was invited to--Dominican Embassy. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Here in Washington?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. I was trying to work up some kind of concession, I think. I was working on some kind of oil deal, and tried to contact the Dominican Ambassador--purely for business reasons--some kind of an oil project which had to do with the Dominican Republic.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Have you been in the Dominican Republic in the last--let's say the last 6 months?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I was there several times. No. 1, in March 1963, on my way to Haiti, to sign a contract with the Haitian Government, but spent only one night at the hotel there, between planes. It was necessary to stop there, because there was no right connection. Pan American arranged so that the passengers to Haiti would stop in the Dominican Republic for the night, and then leave the next morning.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that the first time you were ever in the Dominican Republic?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is the first time I have ever been there.

Mr. Jenner.

When next were you there?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. The next time we were with--let's see--yes; we were--my wife and I when we were coming to Haiti, exactly on the same--in the same the same occasion, to spend the night.

Mr. Jenner.

Just spent overnight?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Overnight, and take the plane the next morning, on our way to Haiti in June--I think the first or second of June in 1963. And then just recently, about a week ago, when I went to check on some mining possibilities, and get some information from the Bureau of Mines in the Dominican Republic. And again I went to San Juan, and then picked up my wife, and then brought her back into the Dominican Republic, finished getting the information, and returned to Haiti. And then again on the way to the United States now, just stopping there.

Mr. Jenner.

On this present trip?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; just stopping for 20 minutes.

Mr. Jenner.

Those have been your sole contacts in the Dominican Republic?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; to the best of my memory--yes; I remember now why I tried to contact the Dominican Embassy in 1957. Somebody told me I don't remember who--that they needed a consulting geologist in the Dominican Republic, and I tried to contact the ambassador, and never was able to see him.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall commenting, along with Mrs. De Mohrenschildt, that you know of no connection that did or could have existed between Lee Oswald and any organization or government because you thought nobody could stand him, and that you questioned his mental stability?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right. I remember making that statement. I think it was in Port au Prince that I made that statement.
Naturally anybody--who would--in our opinion, if he killed the President of the United States, he must have been mentally unstable. I could not find any other explanation. Or somebody might have paid him for it. But this is another speculation that came to me later on. But, again, it is purely speculation on our part.

Mr. Jenner.

Well, you had no--now that you have made that statement, I have to pursue it.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. By reading the papers, you know--we had no other

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