don't say it is the answer to it. But I must tell you what I think, because I am the only one that has this information. Now, here is another instance----

Mr. Rankin.

What kind of a conspiracy are you describing that these men are engaged in?

Mrs. Oswald.

The assassination of President Kennedy.

Mr. Rankin.

You think that two Secret Service agents and Marina and Mrs. Paine were involved in that, in the conspiracy?

Mrs. Oswald.

Yes, I do. Besides another high official. I will tell you the high official I have in mind when we go through that part of the story, if you please.

Mr. Rankin.

Well, now, could you tell us what you base that on--because that is a very serious charge.

Mrs. Oswald.

It is a very serious charge, and I realize that. I base that on what I told you, the attitude of this man, and Mike Howard's attitude also.
Now, I have to continue.

Mr. Rankin.

Have you described that?

Mrs. Oswald.

Yes. I have to continue.
While at Six Flags, Marina was given the red carpet treatment. Marina was Marina. And it was not that Marina is pretty and a young girl. Marina was under--what is the word--I won't say influence these two men were to see that Marina was Marina. I don't know how to say it. Are you getting the point? Let me see if I can say it better.

Mr. Rankin.

You mean they were taking care of her, or were they doing more than that?

Mrs. Oswald.

More than taking care of Marina.

Mr. Rankin.

Well, now, describe what more.

Mrs. Oswald.

All right, I will describe it for you.
I am not quite satisfied with the way I said that. Let me get my thoughts together.
I noticed that--and of course as I have testified, the way the man treated me and I was told he was a body guard for Mrs. Kennedy. We were at Six Flags on November 24th, at Lee's death, and on November 26th Marina and I--before November 26th-- Marina and I were very, very friendly, very loving, everything was "Mama"--"Mama has a big heart." And we planned to live together.
I had an insurance policy that had expired on Lee. I was not able to keep up the premium. And I had $863. But however I had not looked at the policy for some years, and I was not quite sure that it was in force. But otherwise I had no money and no job. I had given up my job to come to the rescue. So I was very anxious to get home and get my papers and let them see the copies of everything I had, and to find out if I had my insurance policy, if it was in force, and also get some clothes.
From the 24th until the 26th I lived in my uniform, gentlemen. I did not have any clothes at the Six Flags. Yet Robert Oswald was taken to his home a couple of times to get clothes. And when I wanted to go home and get clothes, they put me off. One time I broke down crying. I said, "I don't understand it. You won't do anything for me, yet you drove Robert all the way to Denton to get clothes."
So the night of the 26th they took me home, and I got my papers. I found that my insurance policy was in force. So I said to Marina, "Marina, we all right. Mama has insurance policy, $800. You stay home with baby and mama work, or mama stay home with baby and you work, and at least we have a start."
"Okay, Mama. I not want big house, Mama. I want small place."
And this is the girl that has never had anything, and she only wanted small things. Fine.
On the date of the 22d, approximately 10 o'clock--this was in the morning--I want to say something to Marina, and Marina shrugged me off and walked away.

Mr. Dulles.

What date was this?

Mrs. Oswald.

The 27th. That morning I had acted as interpreter for an

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