Mr. Hubert.

Now, I have written in my own hand and connected it with a line to point (5) the following, "position of R. S. Huffaker, Jr., at the time of shooting, but he was 4 feet from railing."

Mr. Huffaker.

Approximately.

Mr. Hubert.

I will add the word "about"---is that correct?

Mr. Huffaker.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

"About 4 feet from railing."

Mr. Huffaker.

Yes; that's correct.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, were you there for about 15 or 20 minutes prior to the shooting?

Mr. Huffaker.

Oh, I was there for at least a half an hour prior to the shooting. You mean in that stable position?

Mr. Hubert.

Yes.

Mr. Huffaker.

No, sir; not in that very spot.

Mr. Hubert.

Well, how long were you in that very spot?

Mr. Huffaker.

Let's see, I could not say for certain, but our video tape which is preserved and in existence will show me taking this position and will be the best evidence of exactly how long I was there.

Mr. Hubert.

Can you give us some idea of the number of people, either police or news media, standing to your right as you stood there?

Mr. Huffaker.

To my right?

Mr. Hubert.

You were facing the corridor with your back to the parking area and your back to the railing, isn't that correct?

Mr. Huffaker.

Well, actually, my back was more facing the Main Street ramp than it was to the parking area. My left side was facing the railing.

Mr. Hubert.

You were almost looking up the ramp that goes to Commerce Street?

Mr. Huffaker.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Hubert.

Could you tell us who was on your right or what was the condition of the crowd of people there, how many there were?

Mr. Huffaker.

There was a large number of people and there were, I would say, at least 12 to 15 people lined up across the ramp and at the wall, which is just outside the jail office there.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, would you take my pen and draw the front line of those people, marking the beginning point as number (6) and the end of that line as (7)?

Mr. Huffaker.

[marking the document as requested]. Now, this line went--sometimes it went up into here [indicating] and I could not say for certain whether it was existent at that time, but there were people all the way up into here, but I would make a rough guess it would be this.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you indicate (6) and (7)--in other words, there' were people lined up along the line that you have drawn as (6) and (7) at a single point on one end of that line, too, from what I gather from that?

Mr. Huffaker.

Not exactly--that is, I'm not certain--there could have been some more between me and the rail.

Mr. Hubert.

Now, in the area back of that line and in the direction of Main Street, you say there were approximately 12 to 15 to 18 people?

Mr. Huffaker.

No, not behind the line, but actually lined up somewhat in a line like that [indicating].

Mr. Hubert.

What about the number of people on the Main Street side of the line which you have designated as (6) to (7)?

Mr. Huffaker.

I just don't know how many people were back there, but I know there was a line of people from this point to this point [indicating].

Mr. Hubert.

Did you see any officers on the opposite side from where you were standing?

Mr. Huffaker.

Yes, sir; I did.

Mr. Hubert.

Will you mark another line, curving it if need be, and starting with (8) and going to (9) and showing us roughly the line of people who were. standing where you indicated?

Mr. Huffaker.

Now, this will be to the best of my recollection [drew the line as requested].

Mr. Hubert.

You have drawn a line, one end of which is (8) in a circle and