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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIII - Page 172« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Alfreadia Riggs)

Mr. Riggs.
Actually, Harold asked me to go down and check and see if it would be all right for us to go down because we were under the impression that they had the police had a police officer on the door. After I went down and checked and there wasn't anyone and then I turned and told him to come down and he and I came on down too, and well, the photographers and all was in the basement. All--we passed on by, and went down to the police basement, which is--opposite from the prop room. You have to go down the hall and down the steps.
Mr. Hubert.
You mean you went down into the locker room? That is where all the policemen have their lockers and there's a recreation room and television and----
Mr. Riggs.
Yes, sir; and television and--and there was a jail attendant down there, actually he didn't work in the jail office, he is not a policeman, but he works in the jail office.
Mr. Hubert.
What is his name? Do you know?
Mr. Riggs.
No, sir; I really don't. He told us that he didn't think they were going to show it on television. He imagined they were going-to run a tape and show it later on. Said, "Well, we should have stayed up there. Maybe we could have seen him when they brought him out--" While we were down there I bought a little can of soup, or chili or something, and I was eating as we came back up to the and we stood on the opposite wall from the corridor that leads out to the basement from the hallway that goes out to the basement, and where it has a door--I'm sorry, I couldn't explain, but actually it leads to the basement, goes where they park the cars. We was standing up--opposite in other words, two corridors, you understand, separate that, and well, we was standing up there maybe about 5 minutes, one of the newspapermen said, "Here he come, here he come," and well, we got on the other side of the wall and was trying to look, well, so much rushing and all that actually we didn't see anything, and then did hear the shot, didn't actually sound like a shot, sort of muffled out.
Mr. Hubert.
Were you in the basement at that time?
Mr. Riggs.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
On the Commerce Street side, or the Main Street side?
Mr. Riggs.
It was in between, because it is---if you had been down there, there is a way that comes through the basement, pass by the jail office and corridor where you turn left, and go down there, turn right, and police assembly room is down at the far end, and go up there way, and go----
Mr. Hubert.
Did you go through the engineer's room?
Mr. Riggs.
No, Sir; this is down in the police building where the records, the information is.
Mr. Hubert.
Well, perhaps if you look at this thing over here, this mockup, you will be able to clarify this. Now, this is the jail of office.
Mr. Riggs.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
And see back over there is the parking area. This mockup doesn't show the elevators, but I have a map here which is a chart, really, of that same area only more extensive. For instance, here is the jail office, here are these two ramps, and this mockup only goes to here, you see?
Mr. Riggs.
Uh-huh.
Mr. Hubert.
Now, what I want you to do is to identify this first by marking as follows: "Dallas, Texas, April 1, 1964, Exhibit 5129, deposition of Alfreadia Riggs," I am signing my name on it, and so that the record may show that we are both talking about the same thing, I'm asking you to put your name below mine on there. Now, I want you to look at the mockup first and locate first where you were when the shot was fired, then we'll mark it on the map.
Mr. Riggs.
Well, actually, they didn't have it on here, Just this part here is extended out, see what I am referring to is this corridor leads down here that goes to the police assembly room, this part here is---corridor here leads towards Commerce Street side. Now, it has---along here it has a corner here, that is what--two corridors there, and this is Just a wall what leads into the elevators. Now, when--actually when they--when they was bringing him out, we were standing on this side, and when they brought him out we moved from here over to here [indicating].
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