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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIII - Page 294« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ira N. , Jr. Walker)

Mr. Walker.
It was after I was on a standby basis and sitting in my seat in the truck just waiting for somebody to roll tape.
Mr. Hubert.
What does the standby basis mean in the TV industry?
Mr. Walker.
It means to stand by to go on the air any time on call at a moment's notice, because we had been told he would be moved after 10:30.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you have any distinct recollection that the first time you w him was after the armored truck moved in?
Mr. Walker.
I don't believe the armored truck was backed in until after 10:30.
Mr. Hubert.
So as I understand it then, with respect to the language in Exhibit 5315, there are really two corrections that you wish to make. One is concerning the time 7:30 to 8, and the other is concerning the relation between your seeing Ruby and the truck backing into the ramp?
Mr. Walker.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Your thought, then, as I understand, is that it was considerably later than 7:30 or 8 o'clock, in fact, it was about 10:30?
Mr. Walker.
Or after.
Mr. Hubert.
Or after, but you think that it was before the armored truck backed in?
Mr. Walker.
I don't know.
Mr. Hubert.
It could be either?
Mr. Walker.
It could be either; yes.
Mr. Hubert.
You did see him twice, though?
Mr. Walker.
I did see him at the window twice.
Mr. Hubert.
It is possible that the first time you saw him, the armored truck had not backed in and the second time it had?
Mr. Walker.
It is possible; yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Would your best guess be, considering--well, I don't want you to guess. Would your best impression or opinion now be that the time that you first saw Ruby was less than an hour before the shooting of Oswald took place?
Mr. Walker.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
And that thereafter, the time that you saw him on the second time would have been less than an hour, too?
Mr. Walker.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
You do not have any recollection now, as I understand, as to the time interval between the two times you saw him?
Mr. Walker.
No, sir; I don't know.
Mr. Hubert.
I think you have said that. perhaps we should repeat what he told you on each occasion or what he said or asked?
Mr. Walker.
As near as I can remember, he just asked, "Has he been brought down?" or "Have they brought him down yet?"
Mr. Hubert.
On both occasions?
Mr. Walker.
Yes; and I am not sure, I probably told him "I don't know." It says here that I said, "No." But I have no way of knowing yes or no, really, which is true. We had cameras, and I could see what the cameramen were doing, but I still really have no way of knowing.
Mr. Hubert.
Perhaps you'd better describe for the record what you meant by mug shots?
Mr. Walker.
Well, as I understand it, from listening on the intercom, we were told we were going to get pictures of Jack Ruby and that we would have to get them right away because our people did not have the pictures and would not be allowed to have them, and I assumed that someone from the police department would be holding those pictures, because they--we were told to get the tapes to rolling, because we wouldn't get a second shot at him. And it would just be, get them or miss them, and I presume that someone in the police department was holding those pictures.
Mr. Hubert.
In front of a camera inside the jail?
Mr. Walker.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
It was that mug shot that you remembered talking about that immediately brought to your mind "this is the man I saw just before the shooting of Oswald, or sometime before the shooting"?
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