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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIII - Page 389« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Mrs. Bertha Cheek)

Mrs. Cheek.
Yes. I have heard people talk about him.
Mr. Griffin.
What had you heard about Jack prior to the time you went to talk to him about this club where he wouldn't tell you where it was located?
Mrs. Cheek.
I haven't heard anything except he ran the Carousel Club and was a good operator.
Mr. Griffin.
You had heard what kind of businessman he was? How well he ran his business?
Mrs. Cheek.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Had you heard whether he was honest or dishonest?
Mrs. Cheek.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Can you tell us what you heard?
Mrs. Cheek.
I just knew he run a club and I heard people say that he was a good operator, and I figured if he was a good operator and made money, he must have been a good businessman. You don't make money unless you are a good operator.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you recall who it was that told you Jack was a good operator?
Mrs. Cheek.
I don't recall right off.
Mr. Griffin.
I take it you had the impression that Jack was able to make money off of his operations?
Mrs. Cheek.
That's right.
Mr. Griffin.
Well, do any of your friends or acquaintances or tenants know Jack Ruby?
Mrs. Cheek.
Not that I know of.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you recall at all who it might have been that had known Jack well enough to tell you that he was running his business well?
Mrs. Cheek.
I think it was a policeman that had rented from me that I had talked to occasionally and said something about Jack Ruby's place. I don't know just who it was that told me, and their name. I would be talking to someone sometime, and I can't remember their names to save my life.
Mr. Griffin.
What was the name of the policeman?
Mrs. Cheek.
I don't know.
Mr. Griffin.
Have you had a number of policemen rent from you?
Mrs. Cheek.
I think Mr. Olson said something--I am not sure of the name--on the police force. I wouldn't like to say anything else unless I know for sure I can give the exact name and address. I just heard this conversation.
Mr. Griffin.
Well----
Mrs. Cheek.
See.
Mr. Griffin.
When did the police officer whose name might have been Olson, when did he rent from you?
Mrs. Cheek.
Beachcomber in 1961 or 1960, I believe.
Mr. Griffin.
How long did he continue to rent from you?
Mrs. Cheek.
I don't think he rented there very long, 3 or 4 months. But this was after. Let's see, no, it wasn't after. That was after the first time I had met him.
Mr. Griffin.
Well, other than Mr. 01son, you don't know of anybody else of your acquaintances or tenants who knew Jack Ruby?
Mrs. Cheek.
No. You know, his name has been in the paper and his advertising; and I am sure a lot of people had heard about him and go to the club, but I had never gone to the club.
Mr. Griffin.
Now did your husband know Jack Ruby? Mr. Cheek, did he know Jack Ruby?
Mrs. Cheek.
No. I don't know whether he did or not. He may know Jack Ruby because he is a National Cash Register man downtown that fixes all of the cash registers. He might have gone up and worked on a cash register. I really don't know. I haven't asked him.
Mr. Griffin.
The FBI talked with you sometime ago. I believe you indicated that you had some recollection that some Cubans had rented from you back in 1959, two Cubans had rented from you?
Mrs. Cheek.
I don't know just exactly what was said on that, whether they got that off of the books or whether my sister had told them about it, that rented to Oswald over on Beckley.
Mr. Griffin.
Yes.
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