(Testimony of Curtis Laverne Crafard)
Mr. Hubert.
How did you come to know him?
Mr. Crafard.
Jack introduced me to him at the club.
Mr. Hubert.
Was he there often?
Mr. Crafard.
He was there about six or seven times that I can recall. I believe he was a business associate of Jack's.
Mr. Hubert.
Where did you find that out?
Mr. Crafard.
He had a drive-in setup, drive-in cafe.
Mr. Hubert.
Where?
Mr. Crafard.
I believe it was out northeastern Texas, somewhere, Dallas, northeastern part of Dallas.
Mr. Hubert.
And you say Jack told you he had an interest in it?
Mr. Crafard.
Jack said they were associated. He called him his partner all the time.
Mr. Hubert.
Did the man come on particular days of the week or just at random?
Mr. Crafard.
No. Never knew when he was going to come.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you ever see Jack give him any money?
Mr. Crafard.
Not that I recall.
Mr. Hubert.
Is it correct to state then that all you know about whether Paul was or was not an associate is what Jack told you?
Mr. Crafard.
That is right.
Mr. Hubert.
You observed nothing of your own that would indicate that the man had some property interest in that club or some financial interest?
Mr. Crafard.
Other than the fact that when he did come Jack and him would go into the office, almost every time he would come they would be in the office, from a half hour to 2 or 3 hours at a time talking.
Mr. Hubert.
But you didn't know about what?
Mr. Crafard.
No, I didn't know about what.
Mr. Griffin.
Did Jack keep any books?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
What kind of books did he keep?
Mr. Crafard.
As far as I know it was just his receipts and regular tax, regular books, business books.
Mr. Hubert.
You mean lodgers?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Who made the entries in them?
Mr. Crafard.
It was either Jack Ruby or Andrew. He had an accountant do all his bookkeeping.
Mr. Hubert.
Who was that?
Mr. Crafard.
I don't remember who he was.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you see him?
Mr. Crafard.
I believe he was over the place one time while I was there during the day.
Mr. Hubert.
But you don't know his name?
Mr. Crafard.
No.
Mr. Hubert.
He asked for the books?
Mr. Crafard.
Andy give him some papers.
Mr. Hubert.
Papers or books?
Mr. Crafard.
Some of the the receipts, bar receipts and door receipts.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you ever see Jack and Ralph Paul go over any books together?
Mr. Crafard.
No. I just says whenever they was together like that they would be together in the office, the office door would be locked and they would do talking. It was usually during when--during the evening when the club was in operation and I would be out front.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you know Eva Grant?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes.
Mr. Hubert.
Who is she?
Mr. Crafard.
She was Jack Ruby's sister.
Mr. Hubert.
How did you come to meet her?
Mr. Crafard.
I first met her at the fairgrounds, Jack first introduced me at the fairgrounds and then later I met her at the club.
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