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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIII - Page 445« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Curtis Laverne Crafard)

Mr. Crafard.
I am not sure. He had been on the phone and then he went outside and then something happened at the club; he had an argument or something.
Mr. Griffin.
What did he do after you brought the gun?
Mr. Crafard.
He was right there and the club was closed and I didn't see him until the next day. He seemed pretty angry.
Mr. Griffin.
He didn't try to throw anybody out?
Mr. Crafard.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Was George Senator there at the time?
Mr. Crafard.
I don't recall.
Mr. Hubert.
Do You remember how close this incident was to the death of the President?
Mr. Crafard.
It was either a week before or the same week, earlier the same week, that President Kennedy was assassinated.
Mr. Hubert.
Was it a weekday?
Mr. Crafard.
No. It was during the week.
Mr. Hubert.
It was not on a weekend?
Mr. Crafard.
No; it was during the week.
Mr. Hubert.
So it would have been sometime between the 17th, say, of November and prior to the 22d, or it would have been sometime between, the 11th and the 15th of November; is that correct?
Mr. Crafard.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Hubert.
Have you ever noticed any incidents of Ruby that would throw some light on whether he was a person who had a trait of kindness or benevolence toward other people?
Mr. Crafard.
He was quite kindhearted.
Mr. Hubert.
Give us an example of that.
Mr. Crafard.
One example was the way he took me in. He had no reason for doing it. He wasn't obligated to do it in any way.
Mr. Hubert.
You think you earned your pay?
Mr. Crafard.
What is that?
Mr. Hubert.
Do you think you earned your pay?
Mr. Crafard.
I think I earned everything I got.
Mr. Hubert.
Do you still think it was an act of kindness on his part to take you in?
Mr. Crafard.
I think he was doing me a favor, and still in all he was getting some pretty cheap work, labor.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you ask him for the job or did he ask you?
Mr. Crafard.
He asked me. And then I know of another occasion where I was told about of this young fellow he took in didn't do a thing around the club and he had him around there for 3 or 4 months.
Mr. Griffin.
Did it seem to you that Jack felt it was important that he have somebody at the club all the time?
Mr. Crafard.
After I was there for a while he seemed to feel that way. At first, when I first got to know him, he didn't seem to feel that way.
Mr. Hubert.
This boy that had been there more or less doing the job that you did, but was there prior to you; did you know this fellow?
Mr. Crafard.
No; I didn't know him. I had heard--Andy had told me about him.
Mr. Hubert.
Isn't it a fact that you heard from Andy or otherwise there had been some trouble between Ruby and that man?
Mr. Crafard.
I believe there was something said about trouble.
Mr. Hubert.
Isn't it a fact that you heard that Ruby pistol-whipped him?
Mr. Crafard.
No; I can't recall of ever hearing that statement.
Mr. Hubert.
Did you hear that this boy was Jewish?
Mr. Crafard.
No, sir. I had no idea; no knowledge of him.
Mr. Hubert.
You never met him?
Mr. Crafard.
No, sir.
Mr. Griffin.
I understand that there came a time when you asked Jack to put you on a different pay basis than you originally were.
Mr. Crafard.
When I went to work it was on the understanding that I eventually
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