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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XIV - Page 564« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Jack L. Ruby)

Mr. Herndon.
I believe I said "Harrison." That's the way I had it in my notes, but perhaps you might have gotten the impression I said "Hanson." You knew who I was talking about, Mr. Ruby?
Mr. Ruby.
Yes.
Mr. Herndon.
That's the main thing that you knew exactly who I meant.
Mr. Specter.
I believe you said "Harrison."
Mr. Ruby, are there any other questions which you would like to be covered with you?
Mr. Herndon.
Excuse me, Mr. Specter, I have one more question here. For my records--he did not respond to question No. 6. If you want, I can go over that and we can discuss that question without any response.
Mr. Specter.
No; I'd like to discuss that. Mr. Tonahill and Mr. Alexander have already returned to the room, and I would like to discuss that if it's all right with you here. Let the record show that we would like to cover that now.
Mr. Herndon.
Mr. Ruby, on that last series, I asked a question, "Is Mr. Fowler in danger because he is defending you?" You remained silent, which is one of the instructions I gave you, if you so pleased to do. Would you at this time indicate to me why you wanted to remain silent?
Mr. Ruby.
Well, No. 1, this is quite a notorious thing, and don't forget, it's just like I specified when Earl Warren was in danger, you know, so he is--in other words, people have a dislike for me, and Mr. Fowler is trying to defend me, and this won't make him too popular a person--too well liked of a person, I should say.
Mr. Herndon.
Then, you just simply didn't want to come out with a "Yes" or “No" answer?
Mr. Ruby.
Yes; because I wouldn't know how to answer that.
Mr. Herndon.
All right, Mr. Specter. Thank you.
Mr. Specter.
Mr. Ruby, do you now have any other questions which you would like us to ask you on this polygraph examination?
Mr. Ruby.
Yes; "At what time did I first think of wanting--when was the first time it ever entered my mind that I wanted to commit this act?"
Mr. Specter.
You mean the shooting of Oswald?
Mr. Ruby.
Yes.
Mr. Specter.
We asked you that.
Mr. Ruby.
You did--because if anything prior to that--in other words----
Mr. Specter.
No; we asked you that very carefully a number of ways and one way was when Mr. Herndon asked you did you think of it on Friday, and you said "No"; did you think of it on Saturday morning--"No"; did you think of it on Saturday evening- -"No"; on Sunday morning "Yes,"--so we've covered that very thoroughly.
Mr. Ruby.
Have I ever received any monies--we don't need that, do we, for subversive purposes or anything.
Mr. Specter.
I think we've covered that whole area very carefully.
Mr. Ruby.
Now, what about my being present in the News Building that morning? Here the assassination took place across the street from there?
Mr. Specter.
Mr. Ruby, I think we have covered that when we asked you if you told the truth on your testimony before the President's Commission, because you went into that on June 7, and that isn't nearly the central issue as the other specific questions we have asked you.
Mr. Ruby.
Yes; but if I was in a conspiracy, wouldn't it start off with that point? Oh, yes; they didn't ask me another question: "If I loved the President so much, why wasn't I at the parade?" Is that a very important question to ask?
Mr. Specter.
We have considered those questions and that was when we reviewed the transcript of your testimony, and quite frankly, we have rejected them as being not important.
Mr. Ruby.
You have? I see. Now, isn't it strange now, I want to tell you something that's noticeable in this part of the country about the poll tax, and there are a lot of other reasons, maybe. I'm reluctant to buy my poll tax in time, and I don't recall whether or not--is this all right to go in the record if I speak?
Mr. Specter.
You may go on the record with any facet you think is important for the Commission to know about.
Mr. Ruby.
And yet, it's strange that perhaps I didn't vote for President
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