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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XV - Page 215« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Thomas Stewart Palmer)

Mr. Palmer.
I don't know. No, I haven't. I gave it no importance. I assigned no importance to it at all at that time.
Mr. Griffin.
Can you give us any suggestions as to what might have motivated her to leave so abruptly? Has anything come to your attention that might suggest consideration?
Mr. Palmer.
She had frequently wanted to leave prior to that--she stated this to me and she couldn't. As a matter of fact, at one time she had discontinued exotic dancing entirely for a period of a month or so, and evidently came back to work at Jack Ruby's.
Mr. Griffin.
Why had she wanted to leave?
Mr. Palmer.
She said she had a child and she wanted to get into some other business at that time. This was quite sometime prior to that.
Mr. Griffin.
As long as 6 months or a year before?
Mr. Palmer.
Six months at least. She had indicated that out of respect for her association with a member of the Dallas police force, that she would probably cease dancing, or that she wanted to.
Mr. Griffin.
In other words, when she talked with you--I want to see if I understand this correctly--when she talked with you 6 months or more before Oswald was shot, she indicated that because at that time she had a relationship with this Dallas police officer, she thought it would be best that she get out of the business?
Mr. Palmer.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
You smile. Why do you smile and say yes? Is there anything more?
Mr. Palmer.
No more than I gained the impression that this was not a business that she felt would be compatible with his position, and for no reason other than that.
Mr. Griffin.
Was it known to members of the police department that she was dating this fellow, living with this fellow even before the President was shot?
Mr. Palmer.
It was of such common knowledge to all entertainers, and his presence in the club with her and after in places where entertainers usually went at 1 or 2 o'clock to have breakfast, that I doubt that their association could have escaped the attention of some of the other members of the force.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you have any information about how friendly Sack Ruby was with the police officer that she was dating?
Mr. Palmer.
Quite friendly.
Mr. Griffin.
Can you tell us how you know that?
Mr. Palmer.
Well, I saw no outward signs of any friendship other than that of an acquaintance between the two, but he did introduce me to him, and on occasion, the three of us were at a table briefly when I would drop in late just prior to closing time.
His presence was honored, as mine was, without cover charge. And fre quently Jack would buy us a beer or coke or whatever we were having.
But I didn't feel that there was any animosity. Or let me say, I was not aware that there was or had been or possibly would be any animosity. Knowing Jack, I feel that he was perhaps nurturing this acquaintanceship to strengthen any position that a person in his business might sooner or later need.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you have any information that this police officer might have helped Jack Ruby get into the basement of the police department on Sunday?
Mr. Palmer.
No. As a matter of fact, this is the first time that I have even thought of that. I would not know. I could give you no idea at all on that.
Mr. Griffin.
Did Little Lynn have any occasion to talk to you about her relationship with Jack Ruby after Oswald was shot?
Mr. Palmer.
No. As a matter of fact, I didn't see Little Lynn after that. Actually, I knew she was employed sporadically there because of what I assume was slightly neurotic reasons. I didn't see her for a period of maybe a week before that happened in the club.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you have some reason to think that she was a mentally disturbed person?
Mr. Palmer.
I was certain of that.
Mr. Griffin.
Can you tell us why it is you feel that way, and what do you think her problem was?
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