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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 109« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mr. Jenner.
A person in your mind may be a Communist, and yet not a member of the Communist Party, even in Russia?
Mrs. Paine.
I. might use the word in that loose way.
Mr. Jenner.
The last of these interviews was on, may I suggest, and if not would you correct me, January 27, 1964, by Agent Wiehl, and Agent Hosty. It appears, and would you please correct me if I am wrong, to have been an interview in your home at the very tail end of January 1964?
Mrs. Paine.
I have no specific recollection.
Mr. Jenner.
Do you recall an interview in which you reported to the FBI, these two agents, that agent Hosty--no, that you gave Lee Harvey Oswald the name of agent James P. Hosty together with the Dallas FBI telephone number which you had obtained on November 1, 1963, that you did not give him the license number of the automobile driven by agent Hosty, however, and that, as I have asked you before, the license number could have been observed by Marina Oswald on November 1?
Mrs. Paine.
That is my recollection of the occurrence.
Mr. Jenner.
And it could have been observed on November 5th?
Mrs. Paine.
That is right.
Senator COOPER. Did you yourself see the license plate?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Senator COOPER. You don't know the numbers or letters that were on the license plate?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
Mrs. Paine, you testified yesterday and you testified again today, this morning, that you had no recollection of Lee Oswald having gone into the garage of your home on Thursday, November 21. Do you recall that testimony?
Mrs. Paine.
Well, that I did not see him there or see him go through the door to the garage. I was clear in my own mind that it was he who had left the light on, and I tried to describe that.
Mr. Jenner.
It may have been a possibility and you were inferring from that that he was in the garage.
Mrs. Paine.
I definitely infer that.
Mr. Jenner.
Were you interviewed by the FBI agents Hosty and Abernathy on the 23d of November 1963?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
And in the course of that interview, do you recall having stated to these agents that on the evening of November 21, Lee Oswald went out to the garage of your home, where he had many of his personal effects stored, and spent considerable time, apparently rearranging and handling his personal effects.
Mrs. Paine.
I don't recall saying exactly that.
Mr. Jenner.
Could you have said that to the agents.
Mrs. Paine.
I could have said as far as spending considerable time.
Mr. Jenner.
Now that your recollection is possibly further refreshed, please tell us what you did say to the agents as you now recall?
Mrs. Paine.
You have refreshed nothing. You have got all there was of my recollection in previous testimony.
Mr. Jenner.
Based on the fundamentals, the specifics which you have given us yesterday and today, you did report to the FBI on the 23d of November in the interview to which I have called your attention that on the evening of the 21st Oswald went out to the garage where he had many of his personal effects stored, and spent considerable time apparently rearranging and handling his personal effects.
Mrs. Paine.
I don't recall ever saying "apparently rearranging and handling."
Mr. Jenner.
Other than the word "apparently" that is a reasonable summary of what you did say to the FBI agents, is it?
Mrs. Paine.
I don't recall. I think my best recollection is as I have given it to you in the testimony, was it this morning, that I certainly was of the opinion that he had been out there. I had been busy for some time with my children, and I could easily, and of course that was the day after, and this several months after, have been of the opinion, been informed as to how long he had been out there, but my recollection now doesn't give me any length of time.
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