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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. III - Page 352« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ted Callaway)

Mr. Callaway.
It would be on the northeast corner.
Mr. Ball.
So that we can orient ourselves from 10th and Patton--I have marked this diagram as Commission Exhibit 537.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 537 for identification.)
Mr. Ball.
Now, Mr. Callaway, will you, on 537, take this and mark the location of the used car lot with an "X"?
Mr. Callaway.
All right, sir. Right here.
Mr. Ball.
The "X" marks the position of the used-car lot?
Mr. Callaway.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Now, Mr. Callaway, around 1:15 or so of that day, where were you?
Mr. Callaway.
I was standing on the front porch of our office.
Mr. Ball.
That is at 401 East Jefferson?
Mr. Callaway.
No; 501.
Mr. Ball.
I will show you a picture which we will mark as 538.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 538 for identification.)
Mr. Ball.
Does this show a picture of the office?
Mr. Callaway.
Yes, sir. That is it.
Mr. Ball.
Now you went down there one day last week to have some pictures taken.
Mr. Callaway.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Did you attempt to stand in the same place you were at the time?
Mr. Callaway.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
Where you were standing November 22d around 1 o'clock or so?
Mr. Callaway.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
What did you hear at that time?
Mr. Callaway.
I heard what sounded to me like five pistol shots.
Mr. Ball.
Five pistol shots?
Mr. Callaway.
Five shots, yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
From the sound, could you tell the source of the sound?
Mr. Callaway.
Yes, sir, I could tell it was back of the lot over toward 10th Street.
Mr. Ball.
And what did you do?
Mr. Callaway.
I ran out to the sidewalk on Patton.
Mr. Ball.
And what did you see?
Mr. Callaway.
Well, I could see I was still--before I got to the sidewalk, I could see this taxicab parked down on Patton. I saw the cabdriver beside his cab, and saw a man cutting from one side of the street to the other. That would be the east side of Patton and over to the west side of Patton. And he was running. And he had a gun in his hand, his right hand.
Mr. Ball.
And how was he holding the gun?
Mr. Callaway.
We used to say in the Marine Corps in a raised pistol position.
Mr. Ball.
That would be with the muzzle pointed upward, and with the arm bent at the elbow, is that right?
Mr. Callaway.
Yes, sir; just like this.
Mr. Ball.
I have a picture here, 539.

(The document referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 539 for identification.)
Mr. Ball.
When this picture was taken, did you try to represent the place you were standing when you saw the man?
Mr. Callaway.
Yes, sir.
Mr. Ball.
How did you get there?
Mr. Callaway.
I ran.
Mr. Ball.
You ran from the place on the porch, is that right?
Mr. Callaway.
That is right. From right here, to there.
Mr. Ball.
Now, you were at the place shown on 538, on the porch?
Mr. Callaway.
Yes.
Mr. Ball.
And when you heard the shots, what did you do?
Mr. Callaway.
I just hurried--I don't know whether I really ran or not.
But I hurried off the side of this porch and came to this position.
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