Mr. Lujan.

About having a T-shirt, and wanted a jacket or something.

Mr. Ball.

How were you dressed?

Mr. Lujan.

I had a jacket and a shirt.

Mr. Ball.

What color shirt?

Mr. Lujan.

I don't--kind of blue shirt and brown jacket.

Mr. Ball.

Brown jacket?

Mr. Lujan.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Any tie on?

Mr. Lujan.

No, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did the detective ask you name?

Mr. Lujan.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

And did you tell him your name?

Mr. Lujan.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did he ask your occupation?

Mr. Lujan.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

What did you tell him?

Mr. Lujan.

Working for S. & F. Meat Co.

Mr. Ball.

Ask you anything else?

Mr. Lujan.

No, sir; that's all. Phone number.

Mr. Ball.

Phone number and your address?

Mr. Lujan.

Address, phone number.

Mr. Ball.

Did he ask the other men any showup questions?

Mr. Lujan.

No; just asked my name and address and phone number is all.

Mr. Ball.

That's all? Did he ask that of Oswald?

Mr. Lujan.

No, he didn't ask Oswald nothing.

Mr. Ball.

Oswald was doing some talking?

Mr. Lujan.

Yes.

Mr. Ball.

Was he shouting loud?

Mr. Lujan.

He was shouting. He--he was shouting, said all of us had a shirt on and he had a T-shirt on. He wanted a shirt or something.

Mr. Ball.

Did the detective say anything to you--or him?

Mr. Lujan.

No, sir; just took us out. They didn't have the showup. Left about a minute.

Mr. Ball.

Then you left?

Mr. Lujan.

Yes; took us out back to the cell.

Mr. Ball.

What do you mean they didn't have a showup? They did have you in there and he did ask you questions?

Mr. Lujan.

He didn't ask questions. He started--he wanted a shirt, and that's all.

Mr. Ball.

They asked you questions, didn't they?

Mr. Lujan.

No; they didn't ask nobody questions.

Mr. Ball.

Oh, he asked you your name and address and asked the others their name and address?

Mr. Lujan.

Yes, sir.

Mr. Ball.

Did they ask Oswald his name and address?

Mr. Lujan.

Yes--I mean no, sir.

Mr. Ball.

I think that is all, Mr. Lujan. You can leave.

Mr. Lujan.

All right.

Mr. Ball.

Do you have a picture of yourself?

Mr. Lujan.

No, sir; not with me.

Mr. Ball.

We have your address where you are working?

Testimony of C. W. Brown

Mr. Lujan.

2405 South Ervay.
C. W. Brown
TESTIMONY OF C. W. BROWN

Mr. Lujan.

The testimony of C. W. Brown was taken at 3:30 p.m., on April 3, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. David W. Belin, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.