Did the people engage in conversation with both of the Oswalds?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. They were surrounded by the whole group. I do not recall what happened, because I was busy making the description of our trip while the movie was being shown. That movie, by the way, did not interest Oswald at all. He was not interested.

Mr. Jenner.

The Mexican trip movie?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; he was not interested. Neither Marina nor Oswald were interested.

Mr. Jenner.

Neither one?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No.

Mr. Jenner.

Why was that, do you think?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. They were not the outdoor-type people who would appreciate that sort of thing, not. sufficiently outdoor-type people, not sufficiently sophisticated to appreciate that sort of a thing. At least that was my impression.

Mr. Jenner.

Did any of these people inquire of Oswald as to his life in Russia?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I think so. I think after the movie there was quite an animated discussion there asking many questions and many answering. He was there very happy you see, because he loved to be asked questions. He. loved to be the center of attention, and he definitely was the center of attention that night.

Mr. Jenner.

That night. What about Marina?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, you know that she couldn't speak English.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes. There were people there who could speak Russian, weren't there?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I think she was talking mainly to Mrs. Paine, and I noticed immediately that there was another nice relationship developed there between Mrs. Paine and Marina.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you have some acquaintance with Mrs. Paine afterward; you and Mrs. De Mohrenschildt?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Never saw them again. Never saw them again as far as I remember. That in my recollection was the only time I saw her. I remember her distinctly because she is a very interesting and attractive person.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you remember a Richard Pierce and a Miss Betty MacDonald attending that party?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I remember now Betty MacDonald. I don't remember whether she was at the party but I think she was the librarian at the Magnolia Research Laboratory.
Mr. Pierce is another friend of Everett's who also works at Magnolia, who eventually became his roommate, or maybe he was already a roommate at the time. I think he became a roommate later on.

Mr. Jenner.

Is there anything that occurred at that meeting that you think might be significant that you would like to tell us about?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I really do not remember anything significant.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you remain throughout the whole evening, or did you leave before the party was over?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I do not recall.

Mr. Jenner.

I take it you did not bring the Oswalds to that meeting?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I do not recall either. I think they possibly have come by themselves. Maybe somebody else brought them. Maybe Everett brought them.

Mr. Jenner.

Either that or Everett?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; somebody else might have.

Mr. Jenner.

It was not your party?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No.

Mr. Jenner.

You assisted him, however, in arranging it?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; exactly.

Mr. Jenner.

Do you recall anything said at that meeting with respect to their eliciting from Oswald his views with respect to Russia, and in particular the former government in Russia?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I remember quite a vivid discussion going on, you know, because all those people are highly intelligent, and, very intellectual group

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