that he thought these people who had left Russia were fools for having left Russia?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; I don't think so. I don't remember that. Possibly he told somebody else. But not in my presence.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he express any view to you or did you get the impression that these people in this colony or group, they only liked money, and everything was measured by money?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, naturally--he didn't tell that to me, but you can guess that that would be his opinion, because he was jealous of them. I tried to induce him a few times to get on to some money-making scheme. I said, "Why don't you do something to make money?"
But, obviously, it wasn't interesting to him.
Would you like me to say what I told you about this Solidarist?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. You were interested--you asked me if I belonged to some political party, and I said no. This group of Russian refugees called themselves solidarists. And Mr. and Mrs. Voshinin in Dallas belonged to that group and tried to make me join it. Not being interested, I refused, but I read some of their publications. And it is a pro-American group of Russian refugees who have an economic doctrine of their own. And they seem to have some people working in the Soviet Union for them, and all that sort of thing.
It is a pretty well-known political party that--their headquarters is in Germany.
That is about all I know about them.

Mr. Jenner.

But that group didn't interest you?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No, no; nor any other group.

Mr. Jenner.

I notice in the papers at my disposal some participation on your part in a foreign council discussion group in Dallas.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I belonged to that group--I don't remember during what period--and came quite often to the meetings.

Mr. Jenner.

What is the name of it?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. The Dallas Council of World Affairs. I met quite a few people at the meetings. But they were open, public meetings, where international affairs were discussed. I remember several of the Dallas real conservatives called that Dallas council very leftist. But I never noticed anything in particular.

Mr. Jenner.

Were there people of substance that participated in that group?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; very much so. Mr. Marcus was the president of it. Mr. McGee was the president of it.
Mr. Mallon was president of that, and actually organized this group. Mr. Mallon is chairman of the board of Dresser Industries. But they invited some people to Dallas who are possibly socialists--I don't remember seeing anyone, but I guess they might have invited them.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you on any occasion to express a view or say to anybody in Dallas among your friends that Oswald was an idealistic Marxist?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; I might have said that.

Mr. Jenner.

What did you mean by that?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That he had read and created some sort of a theory, a Marxist theory, for himself.
In other words, he created a doctrine for himself, a Marxist doctrine.

Mr. Jenner.

Is that what you meant by use of the word "Idealist"?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes; that it was an idea in his head that he had--not in a very flattering way I meant that. That he was building up a doctrine in his head.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever say anything to anybody on the subject that Oswald was opposed to the United States policy on Castro in Cuba?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That I think he mentioned to me a couple of times.

Mr. Jenner.

What did he say?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I do not remember the exact wording, but he said that he had admiration for Castro for opposing such a big power as the United States.

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