aware of it. That is what didn't make sense, didn't make sense at all. After all, a pharmacist--it also didn't make any sense to me how could she, came from the country where all the medical help is supposed to be absolutely free.

Mr. Jenner.

Can you recall any other incidents?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. With Marina?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't recollect of anything of any importance.

Mr. Jenner.

Indicating what kind of a person she was. What about her honesty? Would you believe her under oath, where her personal interests were involved, let us say?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't know. I tell you what I didn't like about her recently and sort of swayed me a little against her. According to what I read in the newspapers, she said when she was asked--I mean what swayed me about her personality----

Mr. Jenner.

I don't want you influenced by what you read in the papers afterward. I want your opinion.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Before?

Mr. Jenner.

Yes
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. She impressed me as an honest girl. She really impressed me as an honest girl, and not malicious, not malicious, promiscuous, you know.

Mr. Jenner.

What?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Promiscuous.

Mr. Jenner.

She was promiscuous but not malicious?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Not malicious. That is how I would put it, you know. She was so anxious to live and she was so happy to be in the United States. She wanted to have it all, you know what I mean? She wanted a car and she wanted to have a little apartment and have all these little gadgets that fascinated her, just like they fascinated me when I came to the United States. She was living in that poor, poor apartment. Of course, it was depressing for her.

Mr. Jenner.

Was she talking to Lee about all, that she wanted a car and these gadgets and a refrigerator?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I cannot say she did, but I am sure she did.

Mr. Jenner.

Your husband recalls that you and he, at least he, suggested to them that they should buy a car. They could get one for very little money.
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I believe we talked about it. But I don't know if he even drives a car.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever see him drive a car?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No.

Mr. Jenner.

Was there any discussion at any time in your presence indicating whether he could or couldn't drive a car?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't remember. I think we had them in a car only once talking, you know, and she expressed how wonderful it would be to have a car, something like that, this is the only recollection I have. We didn't have too much discussions about it.

Mr. Jenner.

You took the baby to the clinic for various shots?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Registered her, yes; and I got her card and the dates when she is supposed to come over, and I didn't take her next time. Somebody else took her. I took her only once to the clinic.

Mr. Jenner.

So, as a matter of fact, Mrs. Dymitruk took her?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. She did.

Mr. Jenner.

You recall Mrs. Dymitruk?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I know her very little, but I recall her. I think it is Lydia, isn't it?

Mr. Jenner.

You also took her to the dentist. Was that at Baylor?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. It was a dental clinic, I believe. It was in Baylor Hospital dental clinic.

Mr. Jenner.

Some money had to be paid in that connection?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And you got that money from George Bouhe?
Mrs. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. That is right, and he told me there would be the

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