Mr. Jenner.

Did you enter that crawl space at any time in the fall of 1963?

Mrs. Paine.

No.

Mr. Jenner.

And, in particular, did you examine it on the afternoon of the 22d or any time on the 22d of November 1963?

Mrs. Paine.

No; I did not.

Mr. Jenner.

When the police came here on the afternoon of November 22, did they climb up and look in the crawl space above the ceiling of your house?

Mrs. Paine.

I did not see anyone do that.

Mr. Jenner.

I am only asking while you were present--while you were present, did the police look in the storage room we have now described?

Mrs. Paine.

To the best of my recollection they did.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, the length of the garage extends from the Fifth Street side back to your dining room area, does it not?

Mrs. Paine.

That's right.

Mr. Jenner.

And the width of the garage runs from the wall of the living room to the wall of the house on the west?

Mrs. Paine.

That's correct.

Mr. Jenner.

Now, would you please go out in the garage and in our presence put your foot in the spot--and the two places--that you noticed the blanket wrapped package, as you testified last week?

Mrs. Paine.

All right.
(At this point the witness, Mrs. Paine, complied with the request of Counsel Jenner.)
The blanket was lying approximately here from about here in front of the work bench, halfway to the band saw.

Mr. Jenner.

Will you listen to me please: We are approximately in the center of the lengthwise plane of the garage and there is on the west wall a work bench. On the work bench is a drill, a South Bend drill, a heavy industrial type drill, with a number of packages, and then underneath the work bench is a small desk--is that a child's desk?

Mrs. PAINE. No; a student desk.

Mr. Jenner.

And in the knee hole in the center of that desk on the left and right of which are sets of two drawers is what; what is that?

Mrs. Paine.

That's an ice chest.

Mr. Jenner.

Was that ice chest there on the 22d of November?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

Is the desk underneath the work bench and is the work bench also--are all these things now in the position they were on November 22d?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And, are they in the position they were substantially from October 4, 1963, to and including November 22, 1963?

Mrs. Paine.

They are in the same position.

Mr. Jenner.

The work bench I have described is at its top 8 feet 1 inch in length and 2 feet 3 inches wide or deep, extending out from the west wall into the garage. It's a good substantial work bench, though it is piled high with various boxes and cartons. Is the top of the work bench in approximately the same condition now as it was on November 22, 1963, Mrs. Paine?

Mrs. Paine.

A little fuller.

Mr. Jenner.

And is it in approximately, in that respect, the condition it was from October 4, 1963, to and including November 22, 1963?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

I will now measure the distance east and west from the outside leading edge of the work bench to the east wall of the garage.
Agent HOWLETT. It's 7 feet 9 inches.

Mr. Jenner.

The south edge of the work bench is 8 feet 5 inches from the inner side of the overhead garage door, which is now in place.
There is a band saw to the south of the work bench also against the west wall of the garage. It stands--it looks like a pretty solid piece of equipment and it stands 5 feet 7 inches high from the floor and the band saw, Mrs. Paine, is a solid piece of equipment--metal, that is, resting on the garage floor itself, is it not?

Mrs. Paine.

Yes; it is.