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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 408« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mr. Jenner.
The south edge of the set of chests, did you say these were?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
The south edge of the set of chest of drawers is 2 feet 1 inch to the inside portion of the overhead garage door, which is in place. Now, would you with that description again state where the package was when you first saw it, first was the space you said was filled with the goods and wares of the Oswalds located in the space between the south edge of the saw table and the north edge of the chest of drawers?
Mrs. Paine.
With some overlapping of the area of the saw table.
Mr. Jenner.
With that in mind, tell us where the blanket-wrapped package was.
Mrs. Paine.
I do not have a distinct recollection of where it lay on the floor.
Mr. Jenner.
Locate it the best you can.
Mrs. Paine.
To the best of my recollection it was partially under the saw table or out towards the front of their boxes.
Mr. Jenner.
Did you ever see the blanket-wrapped package upended in your garage?
Mrs. Paine.
No.
Mr. Jenner.
I notice a ball of string which I have just taken from a box, which is on the surface of the work bench.
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
You have testified that the blanket-wrapped package was in turn tied or wrapped with string?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
You think perhaps, around in four places?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes.
Mr. Jenner.
Was the string of the weight and character of that which I have in my hand, that is, this ball of string?
Mrs. Paine.
It could have been that weight or it could have been as heavy as this other short piece that's on the floor.
Mr. Jenner.
The short piece which Mrs. Paine has picked up and has exhibited to me, we will mark "Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 270," and we will cut a piece of the other twine or string and mark that as "Ruth Paine Exhibit No. 271."
(Materials referred to marked by the reporter as "Ruth Paine Exhibits Nos. 270 and 271," for identification.)
Mr. Jenner.
For the purpose of the record, Mrs. Paine, and John Joe, Exhibit No. 271 is the lighter and thinner of the two pieces of string which the witness has identified, is it not?
Agent HOWLETT. That is correct.
Mr. Jenner.
I will state, and will everybody agree with me or disagree with me, if I misstate the facts that it would be utterly impossible to get an automobile into this garage in the condition that it is now, is that correct?
Mrs. Paine.
It would be utterly impossible.
Mr. Jenner.
And, is its condition now in that sense substantially the same as it was on October 4 and from thence forward through November 22, 1963, Mrs. Paine?
Mrs. Paine.
Yes; it is.
Mr. Jenner.
Now, as I understand it, Mrs. Paine, you, Marina, and the policeman came out into this garage on the afternoon of November 22?
Mrs. Paine.
That's right?
Mr. Jenner.
Did you lead the procession into the garage, or did Marina, or someone with the policeman?
Mrs. Paine.
I recall saying that most of the Oswalds' things were in the garage, and I don't recall whether it was a policeman or myself who first entered.
I would guess it had been myself.
Mr. Jenner.
Had there been some conversation before you entered the garage on the subject of whether Lee Oswald had a rifle and was there a rifle located in the home?
Mrs. Paine.
There was no such discussion before we entered the garage.
Mr. Jenner.
What was the purpose of your entering the garage on that occasion and the circumstance as to why you entered the garage with the police, and I take it Marina was with you, was she?
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