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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 413« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Ruth Hyde Paine Resumed)

Mrs. Paine.
They were covering perhaps a foot of the window on each side.
Mr. Jenner.
Were you so intent, you and Marina, from looking at the television that you did not notice the police come in to your door?
Mrs. Paine.
I think we could not have seen them coming to the door.
Mr. Jenner.
Why not?
Mrs. Paine.
We were sitting here. I was in the middle of the sofa and, Marina was to the west.
Mr. Jenner.
She was to your right?
Mrs. Paine.
That's right.
Mr. Jenner.
And you say you could not have seen them?
Mrs. Paine.
Well, there were several times--I don't----
Mr. Jenner.
Well, at the instant of time they came, had you noticed them coming?
Mrs. Paine.
No; I had not.
Mr. Jenner.
You say you could not have seen them because, I take it [at this time Counsel Jenner with the assistance of the witness, Mrs. Paine, drew the living room drapes so that they no longer covered the living room windows]--because they approached the house from the driveway side, which is on the west?
Mrs. Paine.
Right, and as I recall, both of the cars that came in were parked to the west of my driveway.
Mr. Jenner.
So, they would have come at an angle, which assuming the door was closed----
Mrs. Paine.
As it was.
Mr. Jenner.
The door opening onto Fifth Street?
Mrs. Paine.
The door was closed.
Mr. Jenner.
May the record show, and I will ask Mr. Howlett if he agrees, that under those circumstances, with the officers approaching from the west, that the ladies sitting on the sofa or couch could not have seen them as they approached from the west?
Agent HOWLETT. No.
Mr. Jenner.
So, the first time, I gather you were aware that the police had arrived or come, was when the doorbell rang or they knocked on the door?
Mrs. Paine.
The bell rang and I was first aware of them when I opened the door.
Mr. Jenner.
Now, we will get you, Odell, to come in here.
(At this point the reporter proceeded to the point designated by Counsel Jenner.)
Mr. Jenner.
I will proceed to describe here your lawn and if you, John Joe, will come out and check me on it and will you stand in the doorway, Mrs. Paine, and would you check me, Mrs. Paine, as I recite these facts?
Mrs. Paine.
All right.
(At this point the persons heretofore mentioned assumed the places designated by Counsel Jenner.)
Mr. Jenner.
That your home is well set back, we'll measure it in a moment, from the street, and it is a rather generous lawn with some bushes, the bushes are not solid as a screen, but they are up close to your home. The lawn area is entirely open except for the oak tree which I have heretofore described as being as a large generous shade tree about 2 feet in diameter. We will measure the circumference in a moment. John Joe, could we measure the distance from the south wall of the home to the sidewalk?
Agent HOWLETT. There is no sidewalk--there is a curb.
Mrs. Paine.
Yes; there is.
Agent HOWLETT. 42 feet.
Mr. Jenner.
Will you come in, John, and recite in the presence of the reporter what that distance is?
The REPORTER. I have it in the record from his statement 42 feet.
Mr. Jenner.
There is a roof or canopy over the porch entrance, the depth of which from the south wall to the south edge of the roof area is what, Mr. Howlett, to the south edge of the roofed area?
Agent HOWLETT. It would be 11 feet.
Mr. Jenner.
And it is how wide from east to west?
Agent HOWLETT. Seven feet three inches.
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