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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. XII - Page 208« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Wilbur Jay Cutchshaw)

Mr. Cutchshaw.
Right.
Mr. Griffin.
Are there any additions or corrections that you would want to make in those documents?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
I couldn't see any that I would want to make.
Mr. Griffin.
Okay; now, you were up in the juvenile bureau all of Sunday morning until you were called down in the basement; is that right?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
Yes.
Mr. Griffin.
Now, during the period that you were up there, do you recall who was on duty?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
Well, let's see. Officer Goolsby was working the desk, and Lowery and myself and Harrison and Miller, I believe it was, and, oh, yes, June McLine, a policewoman.
Mr. Griffin.
Can you recall when it was that you first had any information that Lee Oswald might be moved to the county jail?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
All I can remember is that Chief Stevenson came up and told us he wanted us all to stay up in the office, and at that time it was about 9 o'clock, I believe it was. And he said that they had to form a security when they moved Oswald, but as far as knowing exactly what time, I didn't.
Mr. Griffin.
How do you place it? What makes you say that he came up about 9 o'clock?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
Because I remember that he said we had to be there between, I believe it was, 9 and 10, and so I looked out the window at the clock, but I didn't have my watch, because I had these trousers that didn't have a watch pocket, because I have a pocket watch. I don't have a wrist watch, and out the window we have a sign that has a big clock. I said I better call the boys from the care. They had already left to go to the care, but it was about 9 o'clock.
Mr. Griffin.
Who were they?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
Blackie Harrison and L. D. Miller.
Mr. Griffin.
Who did you say that to ?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
I believe I asked Captain Martin if he wanted me to call and tell them to come back. He said tell them to get back as soon as possible.
Mr. Griffin.
Did you call over at the care?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
I asked somebody what the number was, and I think it was a man on the desk, but it was Goolsby was the one that made the call. I am not sure as to whether he did or not. I know somebody had to look it up in the book what the number was over there.
Mr. Griffin.
You don't recall whether you made the telephone call or Goolsby made it?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
I sure don't.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you recall where it was you called?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
I know where they went. I say I think I do. The Deluxe Diner, right across from the library on Commerce.
Mr. Griffin.
How did you happen to know that?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
Because that is where they said they were going. That is what we call the "greasy spoon."
Mr. Griffin.
Have you talked to Miller and Harrison about their testimony before the Commission?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
Were you on duty yesterday ?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
No.
Mr. Griffin.
What duty hours are you working now?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
I work from 8 to 4.
Mr. Griffin.
What are your days off?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
On Tuesdays and Wednesdays.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you recall what happened? Do you recall Harrison and Miller coming back from the diner
Mr. Cutchshaw.
No; I know the next time I saw them they were down in the basement.
Mr. Griffin.
Do you recall anybody coming in and directing you to go down to the basement?
Mr. Cutchshaw.
Yes.
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