a couple of feet and jumping on the clutch and starting when the battery is down.
And I remember he said it was a little bit different to drive with a clutch. I said, if you are not used to it, but if you get used to it. You have to find a friction point on any car, even on Chevrolet or Ford, you know yourself the friction points on a clutch and the brakes are different adjusted on every car you drive.
And I told you there is nothing you do. You just have to get used to a car of the individual, you can drive one car to do it, and you can drive another one it may take you a couple of days to get used to it.

Mr. Ball.

He is the one who mentioned the clutch, is he, that you didn't have a clutch?

Mr. Frazier.

Right.
I guess he noticed that I didn't have a clutch.

Mr. Ball.

I see.
Did he pay for any part of the trip, buy your gasoline?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; he didn't. I never did ask him. Because like I said I drove over there anyway and it doesn't take any more to drive one guy than it does to drive a carload.

Mr. Ball.

Did he offer to pay any time?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; he never did.

Mr. Ball.

At any time coming back after a weekend did you ever stop at a restaurant for breakfast?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; we never did.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever stop on the way home on Friday night and buy anything?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; stopped one time and bought some gas, I remember.

Mr. Ball.

Did he pay for it?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; he didn't.

Mr. Ball.

Did he offer to?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; he didn't.

Mr. Ball.

Did you ever see him have any money in his possession, bills, change?

Mr. Frazier.

No, sir; I never did see him out playing around with any money.

Mr. Ball.

On the way back and forth did you talk very much to each other?

Mr. Frazier.

No. sir: not very much. lie is. probably in your line of business you have probably seen a lot of guys who talk a lot and some don't and he was one of these types that just didn't talk. And I have seen, you know, I am not very old but I have seen a lot of guys in my time, just going to school, different boys and girls, some talk a lot and some don't, so I didn't think anything strange about that.
About the only time you could get anything out of the talking was about babies, you know, he had one and he was expecting another, that was one way he had him get that job because his wife was pregnant and I would always get something out of it when I asked him about the babies because it seemed he was very fond of children because when I asked him he chuckled and told me about what he was doing about the babies over the weekend and sometimes we would talk about the weather, and sometimes he would go to work and it would be cloudy in the morning and it would come out that afternoon after work, sometimes during the day and it would turn to be just one of the prettiest days you would want anywhere, and he would say some comment about that, but not very much.
He would say a few words and then he would cut off.

Mr. Ball.

Did he tell you he had been to Russia, say anything about that?

Mr. Frazier.

Well, I say, we were talking about one time talking about the service, and so I asked him had he ever been overseas and he said he had, and I asked him had he ever been to Germany and he said he had been through there.
So, most times when boys are in the service in the United States they either go to Japan or, I say, they either go over there or you know, go to some of these, say, like Germany or France somewhere like that.

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