Well, I don't think I have a thing in the world, because actually I didn't know Oswald or his wife, either one. I don't ever remember seeing them.
And I do want to tell you this. At the time President Kennedy was assassinated, I thought this woman who lived on Fifth Street, right after it happened, I thought that was his wife simply because of her saying that this child spoke Russian and the police arrested Oswald, and I figured in my own mind that this was his wife, but it turned out differently, and that is the only thing that I learned about.

Mr. Liebeler.

You learned that it wasn't this lady's husband that was involved, by reading the newspapers, is that correct?

Mr. SMITH. Yes,. sir; and as far as if this lady that lived on Fifth Street had a husband, I have never seen a man around there at-all, and I have never seen a man with her. Ordinarily, just human nature would cause a man and his wife to be together sometime.

Mr. Liebeler.

But you have never seen this lady with her husband?

Mr. Smith.

I have never seen her with a man.

Mr. Liebeler.

I want to thank you very much, Mr. Smith, for coming in. I appreciate it.

Mr. Smith.

I wish there was something I could do, but I don't know-a thing in the world I could help you with, I believe.

Mr. Liebeler.

Thank you. I appreciate it very much.

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W. W. Semingsen

Testimony of W. W. Semingsen

The testimony of W. W. Semingsen was taken at 11 a.m. on March 31, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Pest Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Liebeler.

Please rise and raise your right hand.
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Semingsen.

I do.

Mr. Liebeler.

Please be seated. Mr. Semingsen my name is Wesley J. Liebeler. I am a member of the legal staff of the President's Commission which has been appointed to investigate the assassination of President Kennedy. The staff counsel have been authorized by the Commission to take testimony pursuant to authority granted to the Commission by Executive Order 11130, dated November 29, 1963, and Joint resolution of Congress No. 137.
I believe that Mr. Rankin wrote you a letter last week telling you we would be in touch with you to take your testimony, and he sent that letter along with copies of the Executive order and Joint resolution of Congress, as well as a copy of the Commission's rules of procedure relating to the taking of testimony is that not correct?

Mr. Semingsen.

Yes; I received Mr. Rankin's letter.

Mr. Liebeler.

We want to inquire of you today concerning the possibility that Lee Harvey Oswald received money order telegrams through the offices of Western Union here in Dallas, or possibly in Fort. Worth or Irving, and also briefly as to a money order telegram sent by Jack Ruby to an associate of his on November 24, 1963.

Mr. Liebeler.

Before we get into the details of that, would you state your full name for the record?

Mr. Semingsen.

My name is W. W. Semingsen.

Mr. Liebeler.

By whom are you employed, sir?

Mr. Semingsen.

The Western-Union Telegraph Co.

Mr. Liebeler.

In what capacity are you employed?

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