Mr. Slawson.

the route, and the method of transport. He said he left from New Orleans September 19. I wasn't absolutely sure that was the date he gave me, on a Friday by ship. Actually the 19th was a Saturday. And he might have left on the 18th. That it took him 12 days to get to Le Havre, that he hooked a flight to Helsinki but you couldn't fly to Helsinki from Le Havre. You would have to fly from Paris.

Mr. Slawson.

Actually he flew from London. He went from Le Havre to London and then Helsinki.
Miss JOHNSON. By the same ship?

Mr. Slawson.

No; by airplane I believe. Anyway he disembarked on the ship at Le Havre, as he told you, then went from there to London I believe by airplane, although I am not certain. But then he went by airplane from London to Helsinki.
Miss JOHNSON. Yes; actually he got his visa in London probably.

Mr. Slawson.

Well, I do know some of these facts, but I would like you to go on the best of your recollection.
Miss JOHNSON. He said nothing about London at all. I never was sure how the hell he got to Helsinki, but he said he went by train from Helsinki to Moscow, and he repeated that for 10 days he had been on those vouchers.

Mr. Slawson.

Did he indicate to you anything about how he got his visa?
Miss JOHNSON. No; not at all. I may well have asked him too. A question and a nonreply, though, are not recorded in my notes, but I may well have asked him. On the other hand I think I would have remembered if he had said anything. If he just evaded the way he evaded a lot, I might not have put it down, because evasion was really quite characteristic of him. But of course I was curious where he got it, and how. And I do have $30 written down here as the rate. You know there was a businessman's rate of $12 a day at that time, and also the $30 rate I am telling you is as of that time because it is now $35. But I do have $30 written down, so I assumed that he specified that he was there at the $30 rate those 10 days, not the $12. No; he said nothing about a visa, and of course I was curious.

Mr. Slawson.

I have no more specific questions, Miss Johnson. If you have anything at all to add, or any further comments you w. ant to make, please go ahead and do so.
Miss JOHNSON. No; I don't.

Mr. Slawson.

Thank you very much for coming here.
Miss JOHNSON. Thank you.

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Eric Rogers

Testimony of Eric Rogers

The testimony of Eric Rogers was taken on July 21, 1964, at the Old Civil Courts Building, Royal and Conti Streets, New Orleans, La., by Mr. Wesley J. Liebeler, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Eric Rogers, having been first duly sworn, was examined and testified as follows:

Mr. Liebeler.

Mr. Rogers, I am an attorney on the staff of the President's Commission. I think I met you one day.

Mr. Rogers.

I remember you; yes, sir.

Mr. Liebeler.

I wanted to ask you a few questions about Oswald. I am questioning you under authority granted to me by the Commission under Executive Order No. 11130, dated November 29, 1963, and joint resolution of Congress, No. 137.
You are entitled to have an attorney if you want to and you don't have to answer any questions if you feel that they are incriminating.

Mr. Rogers.

Well, I can't answer what I don't know. I will tell yon just what I told them, you see. That's all I saw.

Mr. Liebeler.

Mr. Rogers, am I correct in understanding that you lived at 4907 Magazine Street during the period last summer when--