Mr. Griffin.

North on Hampton?

Mr. Croy.

Yes.

Mr. Griffin.

You were living in your mother's and dad's house at that time?

Mr. Croy.

I slept there.

Mr. Griffin.

Well, was your wife living there also?

Mr. Croy.

No.

Mr. Griffin.

Were you separated from her?

Mr. Croy.

No.
(To reporter: Don't put that in there.)

Mr. Griffin.

Were you separated at that time?

Mr. Croy.

At that time.

Mr. Griffin.

IS there anything else that you think that you could tell as a result of your experiences on the 22d, 23d, or 24th, or any other time that would be helpful to us, either in the investigation of the assassination of President Kennedy, or the murder of Jack Ruby.

Mr. Croy.

You mean Oswald?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Croy.

None that I know of. That is as well as I can remember it of what happened.

Mr. Griffin.

Thank you very much.

Wilbur Jay Cutchshaw

Testimony of Wilbur Jay Cutchshaw

The testimony of Wilbur Jay Cutchshaw was taken at 10:30 a.m., on March 26, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex. by Mr. Burr W. Griffin, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me state for the record again. My name is Burt Griffin. I am a member of the advisory staff of the general counsel's office of the President's Commission on the assassination of President Kennedy. This Commission was established as a result of an Executive order that was signed by President Johnson on November 29, 1963, and a joint resolution of Congress No. 137. Pursuant to that joint resolution and the Executive order the Commission has prescribed a set of procedures, and in accordance with this provision I have been authorized to take your deposition, Mr. Cutchshaw.

I want to tell you first of all a little bit about the scope of the investigation. The Commission has been directed by the President to inquire into and ascertain all the facts that have to do with the assassination of President Kennedy and with the subsequent murder of Lee Harvey Oswald, and to evaluate these facts and report back to the President.
We don't have any authority here to prosecute any crimes. We are not investigating for that purpose. The only crime that can be committed in connection with this investigation is the crime of perjury. We are here to try to determine the facts, and in order to make sure that the events that have transpired over the last few months will not be repeated in the future, if that is possible, and to attempt to determine whether there is still any danger to our chief officers in Government and the national security.
In doing this, we have had hundreds of interviews conducted by various members of the Federal investigatory agencies, and perhaps hundreds is an understatement. It may be thousands. We have a stack of documents over in a corner that would frighten you. It just represents people who have been talked to by the various Federal Bureaus. Now we are undertaking to talk to a few other people that we think are particularly central in terms of having information that would be useful.
As to you, Mr. Cutchshaw, we have asked you to come here because we want to ascertain what you know in particular about the death of Oswald, and we