Mr. Hubert.

Well, relative to the events which were taking place, considering that I think you said it was about noon, well, it was about 11:30 when you first called him and then you went down to the club--

Mr. Crowe.

And then went to the--

Mr. Hubert.

Were interviewed by the newsmen and went to what you thought was Ruby's house and came back.

Mr. Crowe.

Yes; and then to the television station.

Mr. Hubert.

Television station and made a statement?

Mr. Crowe.

Was interviewed there, and then went back to the motel I guess, so that would be--

Mr. Hubert.

Was it at that time that you called Hoy?

Mr. Crowe.

I guess it would be about maybe three.

Mr. Hubert.

What was the purpose of calling Hoy the second time?

Mr. Crowe.

To---I don't remember whether I did call him or he called me. I know I spoke to him. Anyway, I told him about the series of coincidences.

Mr. Hubert.

And that was the first time you had told him about that?

Mr. Crowe.

That was the first time; yes.

Mr. Hubert.

Was that before or after you spoke to the other newsman from Evansville whose name you couldn't remember?

Mr. Crowe.

I would say before.

Mr. Hubert.

Then after you had talked to Hoy the second time is when you spoke to the newsman from Evansville?

Mr. Crowe.

Right. I think he had the newsman call me.

Mr. Hubert.

And you are not certain whether Hoy called you or you called Hoy?

Mr. Crowe.

No. There were about 3 or 4 calls going out--

Mr. Hubert.

Were you present, where did this second call take place from, where were you when you made the second call?

Mr. Crowe.

Right at the motel.

Mr. Hubert.

You say there were some more calls that day between you and Hoy?

Mr. Crowe.

Yes.

Mr. Hubert.

What were they about?

Mr. Crowe.

He had called me once, and said that the American News, I think, or the American Broadcasting, the word American comes to my mind, had suggested that he tell me to make myself scarce or to hide out or to move and let my whereabouts not be known.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he say why you should take such action?

Mr. Crowe.

He said that it had been expressed to him that my life would be in danger.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he tell you why he thought or he had heard that your life might be in danger?

Mr. Crowe.

Because I had mentioned about seeing Oswald in the club.

Mr. Hubert.

Did he say who would be interested at all in killing you for that reason?

Mr. Crowe.

He didn't know. He was just expressing what he said he had heard from another news media. And maybe they were thought friends of Jack's, you know, or I don't know.

Mr. Hubert.

Well now, you made, I think, a previous statement both to the FBI and--I think you gave an affidavit in Dallas---to the Secret Service attested by a notary public--no, by Mr. John Joe Howlett, special agent of the Secret Service. For purposes of identification, I am going to mark these two documents which I am going to Show you in a moment as follows to wit, first of all, the FBI report dated November 24, or rather which purports to be a report on an interview with you on November 24th by FBI Agents Robert Lish and Emory Morton. For the purpose of identification I am going to mark this document on the right-hand margin as follows: "Washington, D.C., June 2, 1964, Exhibit No. 1, deposition of William D. Crowe, Jr.", signing my name below that, the document consisting of one page only. And another document Which purports to be an affidavit given by you on November 25 at 1 p.m. attested by John Joe Howlett, special agent of the U.S. Secret Service with Pauline Churchill as a witness. For purposes of identification I am marking that document as follows, to wit,