I would assume; yes. He did try to do that. His feeling was that if he helped anyone, and as a matter of fact, he helped me, or he thought he had, on several occasions, in any relationship with AGVA, I am sure he felt that this was beneficial to his own dealings with AGVA. And when I say he helped me, he spoke laudatory of me in the presence of officials from New York. Anyway, that was it.

Mr. Griffin.

I don't believe I have any other questions then.

Mr. Palmer.

Fine.

Mr. Griffin.

I want to thank you very much for taking your time to come here today. You have been very helpful to us today.

Mr. Palmer.

Bye.

Joseph Weldon Johnson, Jr.
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Testimony of Joseph Weldon , Jr. Johnson

The testimony of Joseph Weldon Johnson, Jr. was taken at 5 p.m., on July 24, 1964, in the office of the U.S. attorney, 301 Post Office Building, Bryan and Ervay Streets, Dallas, Tex., by Mr. Burt W. Griffin, assistant counsel of the President's Commission.

Mr. Griffin.

Let me introduce myself again. I am Burt Griffin, anti I am a member of the general counsel's staff of the President's Commission on the Assassination of President Kennedy.
Before we ask anybody to testify, we give you a preliminary spiel on what this hearing is all about.
I will start out by telling you that the Commission was set up pursuant to an Executive order of President Johnson and the joint resolution of Congress, and we have been directed to investigate into and evaluate and report back to President Johnson on all the facts that we can find that bear upon the assassination of President Kennedy and the death of Lee Harvey Oswald.
We have asked you to come here today particularly because of your past employment with Jack Ruby's sister, Eva Grant.
Now I have been directed under the rules and regulations that have been promulgated by the Commission, to take your testimony, and under these rules and regulations, you are entitled to receive a 3-day written notice to come here to testify.
The first thing I will ask you is when did you receive a letter from us, if you did?

Mr. Johnson.

When did I receive the letter?

Mr. Griffin.

Yes.

Mr. Johnson.

Let's see. This date here, it is July 19.

Mr. Griffin.

So you received it in plenty of time, and we can go ahead and take your testimony. Do you have any questions that you want to ask me about this before we start?

Mr. Johnson.

Well, not especially, because I talked with the FBI several times before, and I told them everything I knew.

Mr. Griffin.

That is good. We want to now get it in the testimony formally. Let me ask you to raise your right hand and I will administer the oath to you.
Do you solemnly swear that the testimony you are about to give here will be the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, so help you God?

Mr. Johnson.

I do.

Mr. Griffin.

Would you give the reporter your full name, please?

Mr. Johnson.

My name is Joseph Weldon Johnson, Jr.

Mr. Griffin.

How do you spell the middle name?

Mr. Johnson.

W-e-l-d-o-n.

Mr. Griffin.

Where do you live now?