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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 152« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Paul Roderick Gregory)

Mr. Gregory.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you form an impression as to the feeling he had about the U.S. officials concerning his return?
Mr. Gregory.
He mentioned that they had given this money to return.
Mr. Liebeler.
I thought you mentioned that he told you they had loaned him money to return?
Mr. Gregory.
Yes; I am saying he never expressed an opinion one way or the other. It seems to me that normally a person in that situation would say he was very glad they gave him the money. He seemed to expect this money as if it was something that was due him, and he never expressed any gratitude toward the Ambassador or whoever it was that gave him the money.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did he express any resentment toward any of the Government officials concerning his return?
Mr. Gregory.
Completely neutral.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did he tell you whether or not he returned the money to the State Department?
Mr. Gregory.
No; he never told me.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did you form any opinion either from your discussions with Oswald as to whether or not Oswald was well liked in the Soviet Union, and accepted by the people in the community in which he lived?
Mr. Gregory.
As I said before, it seems to me as he was treated as an out- sider, and the only two people I ever heard him speak of were the two I mentioned besides Marina. Evidently Marina was a special case, that she did pay attention to him.
He evidently must have been fairly militant over there, or fairly, could I say not friendly, because he told me of one instance where the fellows at the factory were studying night course in English or something, and they came to him and wanted him to help them, and he helped them once or twice, but then he came to the conclusion they were lazy and he threw them out and told them he didn't want to help them any more. Evidently, he wasn't too friendly over there, so I doubt if he had too many acquaintances.
Mr. Liebeler.
Is that all he told you about the incident when the fellow factory workers were trying to learn English?
Mr. Gregory.
Yes; and I think one fellow, Pavel, he came to Lee to help him with his English and he said this fellow was a good student, and he evidently gave him quite a bit of help.
Mr. Liebeler.
Lee gave quite a bit of help to Pavel and Pavel was trying to learn English?
Mr. Gregory.
Yes; but the other fellows he thought were lazy and refused to pay attention.
Mr. Liebeler.
Did he indicate whether Pavel gave him any assistance in learning Russian?
Mr. Gregory.
No.
Mr. Liebeler.
Or whether he received any other training in the Russian lan- guage while he was in the Soviet Union?
Mr. Gregory.
The only thing he said he learned in the factory when he went over there, he said he didn't know anything, and when they just stuck him in a factory, he said he picked it up there, and Marina helped him quite a bit.
Marina told me that Lee's Russian when I was with him was bad compared to the Russian Lee spoke while he was in the Soviet Union.
In fact, I have Lee's dictionary which he gave me. He gave me his Russian dictionary and he told me, "I don't need it any more," and therefore he gave me the dictionary.
Mr. Liebeler.
You have that at the present time?
Mr. Gregory.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Where is that, in Norman?
Mr. Gregory.
In Norman; yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
I wonder if you would make that available to us?
Mr. Gregory.
Yes; I looked through it to see if there is any writing and there is no writing. There is something, he wrote a name up there or something.
Mr. Liebeler.
If you would make it available to us, we would appreciate it. We will have somebody from the Secret Service or FBI contact you in Norman
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