Mr. Jenner.

And before you started your campaign on cystic fibrosis, they had already moved to Dallas?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. They already moved to Dallas. We already had moved them--had taken Marina away from her husband. And she already had returned back to her husband.

Mr. Jenner.

All right. Now, you say you had already taken Marina away from her husband. Tell us how that occurred.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. In the meantime, George Bouhe became completely disgusted with Lee.

Mr. Jenner.

Why?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Because I don't know exactly why--because he liked Marina very much.

Mr. Jenner.

Bouhe?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Bouhe he is an elderly man.

Mr. Jenner.

Yes, I appreciate that.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. He wanted--almost like a daughter, you see. To him she was a poor girl whose father was an ex-officer, and she needed help. And he really gave. her money. He would give her $30, $40, I think, all at once.

Mr. Jenner.

Did he ever collect money from you and others to contribute?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I don't think so.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever give Lee Oswald any money?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you ever give Marina any money?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Not as far as I remember. Maybe a dollar--maybe 50 cents, something like that, for a bus. But never any money. I was in very difficult financial condition myself at that time. I don't think I gave her even 50 cents.
Sometimes we would invite them to eat a little bit, you see, in the house.

Mr. JENNER. You invited them to your home to eat?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes. I think maybe once or twice they came to the house to eat.

Mr. Jenner.

Your home on Dickens Street?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

All right, tell us the circumstances----
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Of how we took her away?

Mr. Jenner.

And why.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Well, George Bouhe, started telling me that "George, Lee is beating Marina. I saw her with a black eye and she was crying, and she tried to run away from the house. It is outrageous."
And he was really appalled by the fact that it actually happened. And Jeanne and I said, let's go and see what is going on George Bouhe gave me their address, as far as I remember, there in Oak Cliff, because, I didn't move them---it was my daughter who moved them, I think.
So we drove up there to that apartment, which was on the ground floor, and indeed Marina had a black eye. And so either my wife or I told Lee, "Listen, you cannot do things like this."

Mr. Jenner.

Was he home at this time?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. I think he was. Or maybe he wasn't. I just am not so sure. Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't. But anyway, he appeared a little later.

Mr. Jenner.

While you were still there, he appeared?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

And when you entered that apartment on the first floor, you observed that she had a black eye?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. A black eye, and scratched face, and so on and so forth.

Mr. Jenner.

Did you inquire about it?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes.

Mr. Jenner.

What did she say?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. She said, "He has been beating me." As if it was normal--not particularly appalled by this fact, but "He has been beating me", but she said "I fight him back also."