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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 232« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of George S. De Mohrenschildt Resumed)

Mr. Jenner.
So I said, "You cannot stand for that. You shouldn't let him beat you."
And she said, "Well, I guess I should get away from him."
Now, I do not recall what actually made me take her away from Lee.
Mr. Jenner.
Now, Mr. De Mohrenschildt. there has to be something.
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Yes, I know.
I do not recall whether she called us in and asked us to take her away from him or George Bouhe suggested it. I just don't recall how it happened. But it was because of his brutality to her. Possibly we had then in the house and discussed it, and I told him he should not do things like that, and he said, "It is my business"--that is one of the few times that he was a little bit uppity with me.
And then again George Bouhe told me that he had beaten her again. This is a little bit vague in my memory, what exactly prompted me to do that. My wife probably maybe has a better recollection.
Anyway, on Sunday, instead of playing tennis, we drove to Marina's place early in the morning and told Oswald that we are going to take her away from him, and the baby also, and we are going to take her to Mr. and Mrs. Meller. I think George Bouhe made the previous arrangement, because he was closer to the Mellers than I was. Or maybe I called them. I don't remember exactly.
Anyway, they were ready to receive her.
And Lee said, "By God, you are not going to do it. I will tear all her dresses and I will break all the baby things."
And I got very mad this time. But Jeanne, my wife, started explaining to him patiently that it is not going to help him any--"Do you love your wife?" He said yes. And she said, "If you want your wife back some time, you better behave."
I said, "If you don't behave, I will call the police."
I felt very nervous about the whole situation--interfering in other people's affairs, after all.
Well, he said, "I will get even with you."
I said, "You will get even with me?" I got a little bit more mad, and I said, "I am going to take Marina anyway."
So after a little while he started--and I started carrying the things out of the house. And Lee did not interfere with me. Of course, he was small, you know, and he was a rather puny individual.
After a little while he helped. me to carry the things out. He completely changed his mind.
Mr. Jenner.
He submitted to the inevitable?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. He submitted to the inevitable, and helped me to carry things. And we cleaned that house completely.
We have a big convertible car, and it was loaded everything was taken out of that house. And we drove very slowly all the way to the other part of the town, Lakeside, where the Mellers lived, and left her there.
Mr. Jenner.
Did Lee accompany you?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. No; that was it. The next day or a few days later--I don't remember exactly when--George Bouhe called me and said, "George, you should not give Lee the address of where Marina is." I think he came to see me about that--"because he is a dangerous character, and he has been threatening me, and he had been threatening Marina on the telephone."
Mr. Jenner.
He knew where Marina was?
Mr. DE MOHRENSCHILDT. Maybe I am confused a little bit. He knew George Bouhe's telephone number. He had been threatening him, and wanted to know the telephone number or the address of where Marina was. And this time my wife and I said we do not have the right not to let him know where she is, because she is his wife, and we should tell him where Marina is.
Now, I do not recall how it happened--maybe Lee came over to our apartment in the evening. Anyway, we gave him the address of the Mellers, you see, and told him that the best way for him to do is to call ahead of time if he wants to see Marina, talk to her on the telephone, and if she wants to see him, she will see him. And he was very happy about that--because I thought it was a fair thing for the fellow to do.
I repeat again---I liked the fellow, and I pitied him all the time. And this---
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