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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 33« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Mrs. Thomas M. (Natalie) Ray)

Mrs. Ray.
Yeah, next day.
Mr. Liebeler.
Where was that?
Mrs. Ray.
Let me see, I have a dates what happened next Saturday. We went back to Ford's house. They ask us coming over and Saturday we staying at Ford house and there's not much been discussion about but she only know, she tell us that she been keeping Marina with her 2 weeks, Marina and her baby.
Mr. Liebeler.
Mrs. Ford told you this?
Mrs. Ray.
Yes; and she said "Well, he cannot find job"--said she just want to help out and that's as far as been discussed and forgot and then we went Sunday we going back to Mrs. Meller, let me see, Anna Meller.
Mr. Liebeler.
That's Meller. Did you say the next Saturday? In other words a week after?
Mrs. Ray.
No, no; that's same, that following Saturday. We been Friday, that Saturday and Sunday; we 3 days been here in Dallas. Sunday, we ask by George Bouhe or how you say?
Mr. Liebeler.
Bouhe.
Mrs. Ray.
Bouhe, yes, to come and visit another Russian family what being at Ford's house; that's Anna Meller and we went over there and that's one main things taken place when we discussed Oswald and his wife.
Mr. Liebeler.
Who was there at that time? Mr. and Mrs. Meller were both there, is that right?
Mr. Ray.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
Mr. Bouhe?
Mrs. Ray.
Yes, sir; he.
Mr. Liebeler.
Yourself and your husband?
Mrs. Ray.
Yes; and Harris.
Mr. Liebeler.
Mr. and Mrs. Harris?
Mrs. Ray.
Yes; Mr. and Mrs. Harris and then another couple I cannot recall name and they gave me address but I lost it. They live on farm; I don't remember their name; they, couple, and some girl there been from Houston. She visit with Mrs. Meller.
Mr. Liebeler.
Would that be Miss Biggers--Tatiana Biggers?
Mrs. Ray.
Tatiana Biggers, yeah, she from Houston.
Mr. Liebeler.
Anybody else there that you remember?
Mrs. Ray.
Another girl here from Dallas; she not married. I don't remember what her name----
Mr. Liebeler.
Lydia Dymitruk?
Mrs. Ray.
Yeah.
Mr. Liebeler.
Would you tell us to the best of your recollection what was said at this party or get-together?
Mrs. Ray.
Well, when we got together, George Bouhe, one I told him, well, when things we started discuss it and we just wonder how come America take him back; said he choose this Russia, why they brought him back. Why don't they just let him alone over there, and said "You don't know Russia as we do. They have such funny tricks; never can tell what they can," but in the same time thinking if he choosing go to Russia and said "That's my country", why America want to bring him back, what for? We wonder why they take him back. Well, there's George Bouhe said "Oh, he gives so much trouble" and he start telling first things he cannot get job, said he kind of smart-aleck, he calling him. Said every place he go looking for the job, when they ask him where he last time work and he said Minsk, Russia, said "Well, who in heaven going to give job?" He don't explain. He seems to be proud he working in Russia and said nobody give him job and they been have very much difficulty to making living and said they so sorry for this girl. Said he brought her here and she don't know any language. Said she such have difficulty. They don't wonder she have wrong impression about America. Said we been trying help them. Said sometimes she call them and said she don't have nothing to eat for her kid if they cannot help. Said we go and get her and said Mrs. Ford keep her; Mrs. Meller keep her; Mrs. Ray keep her, not me, Ray, that's other Ray. Said we try to help and then George tell me he decided help him try find job maybe he can make living.
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