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Warren Commission Hearings: Vol. IX - Page 34« Previous | Next »

(Testimony of Mrs. Thomas M. (Natalie) Ray)

Mr. Liebeler.
George Bouhe?
Mrs. Ray.
Yes; George Bouhe, he said he go talk to somebody and they give him job. Said you know how long he stay. Said he staying 3 days and quit and I said "Well, I guess he expect since he been in Russia when he come back in America that they going to put red carpet for him and take him." Said well, tell us about America what is wrong, there in Russia they don't accept him and when he come back home they don't need him either here, don't put red carpet and he just disappoint and kind of, you know, just disgusted with everything and he said "Well, I don't know but I give up with them; I am through, we just cannot---he don't going to find job. He don't going to keep job." He thinking he can have some kind of special job; said "I am just through with him."
Mr. Liebeler.
This is what Bouhe said?
Mrs. Ray.
Yes; he said "as much as her, we want to help her because she is strange in country and we don't want her be mistreated but said him, we cannot help him any more" and that's as much as being said.
Mr. Liebeler.
What else was said at this time?
Mrs. Ray.
Well, I don't know; I cannot recall right now.
Mr. Liebeler.
Was there any discussion on the question of whether or not Oswald might have been an agent of the Russian government?
Mrs. Ray.
Well, as an agent we not---but we did discuss. Said Russia, you know, so funny; said never can tell they may send him with some kind of purpose here in America but it isn't saying exactly as an agent but we did discuss it that he may, you know, just send it by Russia because so easy way to coming to America.
Mr. Liebeler.
Tell us now as best as you can recall just what was said about this question of Oswald possibly being sent back by the Russians? What did you say and what did Bouhe say; just tell us as best you can recall the substance of that conversation.
Mrs. Ray.
I mostly talk to George Bouhe because he seems to be man what try to bring this Russians together just have fun, not any purpose but said kind of once in a year if we get together that's kind of help we don't forget to speak Russian. I don't know, I guess I am one who told him, I said "George", I said, "You know how Russia is funny", I said, "You know I just afraid maybe they just send him with some kind of, you know, just send him here knowing Russian." I go in college in Russia and if you live there and study you know what really going on. They going to do such a trick that you surprise.
Mr. Liebeler.
Where did you go to college in Russia?
Mrs. Ray.
In Leningrad.
Mr. Liebeler.
In Leningrad?
Mrs. Ray.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
And this was while you were living in Stalingrad?
Mrs. Ray.
Well, my home in Stalingrad; I going in college in Leningrad and then I went home.
Mr. Liebeler.
Back to Stalingrad?
Mrs. Ray.
Yes.
Mr. Liebeler.
What did you study in Leningrad?
Mrs. Ray.
Economist Statistics.
Mr. Davis.
Economies Statistics?
Mr. Liebeler.
Economies Statistics.
Mrs. Ray.
Economics Statistics.
Mr. Liebeler.
How long did you study?
Mrs. Ray.
Three and a half year.
Mr. Liebeler.
Where did you study in Leningrad, what college?
Mrs. Ray.
Soljanoy Calach---that's salt. I suppose to after I finish they will send me work to the salt mines and been sent to Siberia, Irkutsk, Siberia. That's only on practice but I was work after I finish in Irkutsk, Siberia.
Mr. Davis.
This was a Leningrad college?
Mrs. Ray.
No, no; that's Stalingrad.
Mr. Davis.
I mean college.
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